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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by culi »

monkeybutton wrote: post #50
culi wrote: post #46

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Reminds me of the time I heard from someone much older than me that Democrats and Republicans switched from being red or blue almost every year until 2000 when the election results were so uncertain that people got used to seeing red=Republican and blue=Democrat for weeks and the color scheme just ended up becoming permanent. As a (younger) politics junkie I was shocked even though it makes total sense and I've alway…

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Liberal in most of the rest of the world usually means something similar to "neoliberal" which is usually thought of as a moderate or conservative ideology.

When you say liberal, do you mean it in the way it's used in the US (a stand-in for "leftist") or the way it's used in the rest of the world?

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by NovemberWhiskey »

culi wrote: post #51
monkeybutton wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Liberal in most of the rest of the world usually means something similar to "neoliberal" which is usually thought of as a moderate or conservative ideology. When you say liberal, do you mean it in the way it's used in the US (a stand-in for "leftist") or the way it's used in the rest of the world?

Red is almost uniformly a more-left/pro-labor political color outside the U.S.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by ideaz »

petee wrote: post #52

But their traffic lights are red, being the traditional "STOP", or caution, etc...why would that be chosen to be applied to something increasing? And apparently chart-decreasing is blue, again opposite correlation to use in traffic lights, meaning "go"

>In Japan, the country where the first emoji sets originated, red is traditionally used to represent increases in the value of a stock.

I don't see it necessary to make a correlation to a stop-light's color coding. You could also argue why anything hot is colored red while cool is supposedly blue.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by yongjik »

monkeybutton wrote: post #50
culi wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time I heard from someone much older than me that Democrats and Republicans switched from being red or blue almost every year until 2000 when the election results were so uncertain that people got used to seeing red=Republican and blue=Democrat for weeks and the color scheme just ended up becoming permanent. As a (younger) politics junkie I was shocked even though it makes total sense and I've alway…

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And then there's Korea, where every party is re-created every few years. In the past decades liberals tried green, yellow, and (currently) blue. Conservatives had blue, red, pink, and now back to red.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by monkeybutton »

culi wrote: post #51
monkeybutton wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Liberal in most of the rest of the world usually means something similar to "neoliberal" which is usually thought of as a moderate or conservative ideology. When you say liberal, do you mean it in the way it's used in the US (a stand-in for "leftist") or the way it's used in the rest of the world?

From what I understand, I'm using it in the neoliberal sense.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by petee »

ideaz wrote: post #54
petee wrote: post #52

But their traffic lights are red, being the traditional "STOP", or caution, etc...why would that be chosen to be applied to something increasing? And apparently chart-decreasing is blue, again opposite correlation to use in traffic lights, meaning "go"

>In Japan, the country where the first emoji sets originated, red is traditionally used to represent increases in the value of a stock. I don't see it necessary to make a correlation to a stop-light's color coding. You could also argue why anything hot is colored red while cool is supposedly blue.

Well metal becomes red hot, and ice is often blueish in nature.

But it is something we humans do, particularly with signaling devices (which a chart is a form of too, arguably) you will see color used in similar fashions to convey a similar meaning. Red is internationally a STOP color, a danger, warning color, and used as such most everywhere; except the Japanese stock market apparently. Which is fine, just curious to me.

Another comment here said that in the US some traders flip their colors to indicate red=sell, green=buy, which makes more sense to me in terms of Japan.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by tjbiddle »

otras wrote: post #17

For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!

Thanks for the share - Makes me feel like my investment portfolio is rocketing now!

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by Lammy »

pornel wrote: post #41
paxys wrote: post #16

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The answer to this is kinda complicated. In general terms, it is Apple's OS, and they can do whatever they want on it – so yes, they could display a green chart in some countries. I don't think any platform does something like this today, but it wouldn't be too crazy to add. If we want to talk standards, the Unicode Consortium defines the emoji set as well as loose guidelines on how they should be displayed. The plat…

They already localize them, e.g. in the country iPhones are from the flag of Taiwan is displayed as [x].

Since iOS 13.1.1 it's triggered both by the hardware region of the device and by the software Locale setting of the user https://hiraku.tw/2019/10/4877/
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