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Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #17

For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!

Wait till /r/wallstreetbets finds out about this!

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #20

Funnily enough, the Japanese word for "(business) deficit" is literally "red letters" (赤字): https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B5%A4%E5%AD%97 (Wiktionary says it was borrowed from English - no idea if it's true.)

Interesting! Similarly, in English we would say that a business was "in the red" if its expenditures exceeded its income. (Or something like that. It's a colloquialism, so it doesn't really have a specific technical meaning.)

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #20

Funnily enough, the Japanese word for "(business) deficit" is literally "red letters" (赤字): https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B5%A4%E5%AD%97 (Wiktionary says it was borrowed from English - no idea if it's true.)

Interesting! Similarly, in English we would say that a business was "in the red" if its expenditures exceeded its income. (Or something like that. It's a colloquialism, so it doesn't really have a specific technical meaning.)

This is because losses were traditionally written in red ink back when books were done on paper. Profits were in black ink which is why profitable businesses are sometimes referred to as "in the black."

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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It is kinda funny to see the trajectories that the different companies pick. Samsung is the only one that puts a little negative blip at the end of theirs. Apple shows a little blip at the beginning, followed by what appears to be endless, inevitable increase. From 2013-2015, Microsoft put stagnation toward the end of theirs, but then a tiny optimistic increasing trend at the end. However, starting in 2017 they decid…

This doesn't seem to have a history, but a fun page to waste some time on none the less: https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html#1f4b9

Thanks for that - I just wasted too much time comparing them all. It's interesting how a) companies are willing to maintain their own emojis rather than just borrow a standard, and b) the different approaches taken.

I never really gave emojis much thought prior, but to me I seem to heavily favor FB's style. On the opposite end, ignoring whatever Gmail is, Samsung seems to put the least effort.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

#36
post #21

I'm red-green colorblind, and for this reason was never allowed in accounting at work. I kid, but it sure does surprise me that so much of the world uses red/green to visualize! Passive-aggressive fun fact: roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness.

I once worked for a telecom company that hired a red-green color blind person to splice 9/125 singlemode fiber, and do DC power work. Needless to say it was not a good match.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Fun fact: many western day traders flip the colors. On actual charts, regardless of emojis. So they intentionally turn up into red and down into green.

It has nothing to do with color culture, rather that green is a buy signal (buy the dip) and red is a sell signal (sell at euphoria). This is of course a simplification of trading, but short term traders make money no matter the price movement, or at least try to.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #7

Random question: Why are there so many emoji "implementations"? I understand copyright, but is it really cheaper/easier/preferable for all these different companies to design their own emojis?

For the same reason that there are many fonts. Unicode only defines codepoints, like "UPSIDE-DOWN FACE U+1F643", similar to how it only defines "U+0041 LATIN CAPITAL A". I for one believe it was a very stupid idea to standardize emoji, but here we are.

Lots of writing systems that humans have invented are pretty bad, and their digital implementations are sometimes even worse, but Unicode has to live with all of them.

Before emoji were in Unicode, it was difficult to display Japanese e-mails correctly on anything that wasn't a Japanese mobile phone.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting! Similarly, in English we would say that a business was "in the red" if its expenditures exceeded its income. (Or something like that. It's a colloquialism, so it doesn't really have a specific technical meaning.)

This is because losses were traditionally written in red ink back when books were done on paper. Profits were in black ink which is why profitable businesses are sometimes referred to as "in the black."

Also associated with "black friday" where many retail company annual incomes surpassed annual costs

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #17

For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!

Oh wow, that greatly varies from locales to locales. Not only the color can be swapped depending on the locale, but the specific color can also change. For example the Korean locale (hl=ko) uses red for up (same to Japanese) but uses blue in place of red for down. Both languages have a single native word for blue-or-green or "grue" so either should work in principle, but I have no idea why Korean specifically uses blue. In my brief check there is only one more locale (Khmer, hl=km) where blue is used in place of green (for up in this case).
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