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Re: Foobar2000

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Question: How do you make Foobar2000 keep playing music when you close the lid of your laptop / turn off the screen on your tablet under Windows 10?

I've tried the suggested steps in the Foobar2000 FAQ on this (enable an always play feature) but playback still stops for me.

Re: Foobar2000

#153

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TBF, a lot of that hasn’t really died out in niche music communities even though it might appear to be. Still widely prevalent in the metal scene at least with people moving to Reddit and Facebook as they age and stop being able to maintain forum software

Home ageing affects someone’s ability to maintain a standalone forum? Do you mean lack of free time?

Free time is one factor but other factors include declining health (people that have lived the touring lifestyle understand how harsh it can be physically) and dying. Add in children and the complications of having a 10 year old listen to Cannibal Corpse with you as a hypothetical situation.

One other factor not commonly mentioned is that many people ossify and have difficulty expending the mental energy to seek out new music. I personally don't do that anymore but I certainly did for a while when I was much more stressed out with work. Additionally, some genres themselves seem to get into a rut and tap out (let's not forget the "punk's not dead" attempts at denying reality, for instancee)

Re: Foobar2000

#154

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Doubtful. With Linux you can setup a streaming server and stream your music across different devices. You can automatically download covers and lyrics for each song and automatically organize and index your collection for search.

I have yet to find a Linux app as amazing as mp3tag

Musicbrainz Picard is my tagger of choice, highly recommend it.

Re: Foobar2000

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post #96

I didn't use it, but it looks to me like one of the main draws of foobar2000 was library/metadata management. I've only ever used directories in the filesystem as a "library," and have used many players over the years (mainly moc, which I love, but which doesn't bring anything especially valuable to the table--I mainly just like the UI and out-of-box key commands). Thus, to me, as an outsider, this whole conversation…

I still use foobar2000. The library/metadata management it is quite proud of is entirely built on your existing folder structure (it does not mutate it; it auto-explores/watches it for changes) and your ID3 tags (which it only mutates on your explicit edits). That was a big deal at the time it launched, especially versus how Windows Media Player and iTunes both fought to control your folder structure, rearranged everything form time to time, and would update your ID3 tags at the whims of Microsoft's or Apple's "genius" tagging databases (which were often full of mistakes, especially for rare/weird files).

Foobar2000 was the breath of fresh air opposite of "software/vendor lock-in" and a model that software today still often fails to live up to.

Re: Foobar2000

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I never found a browsing interface as good as Winamp's. Basically it had three panels, in order: Artists, Albums, Tracks (you could enable "Genre"/"Year"/... as well but I rarely did). So at any point, you could select an artist and see both their albums and tracks. Or you could select no artist and see all albums and all tracks. You could select an album there and see all tracks in that album. You could pick a track…

I think there’s two things at play. One, small screens were never a good fit for that style of multi-panel UI. You could perhaps get away with it now, but we had years of small phones and iPods that were definitely not big enough. (FWIW, iTunes—or “Music” as it’s now called—has a UI option much like what you describe, though not enabled by default. It’s a trash fire of an app these days, but it bears mentioning.)

Two, things have changed with the move to streaming. The goal of the music player is no longer to help you browse a curated library, it’s to put new things in front of you. The primary interface is now the suggested playlist and the AI mix.

It’s a shame that the ratio of price/month of music streaming to album price is pretty much 1:1. If it was more like 3:1 I think I could justify going back to just buying albums. Strangely, I don’t think I enjoy music as much now I can listen to anything at any time.

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#157

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Would you happen to know if the story is written out anywhere?

I haven't used it myself, but I've heard REDACTED comes close to what.cd , you might have to interview again though.

Redacted hasn't quite rebuilt What.CD's full library, but it's getting remarkably close. Streaming services have taken some of the vigor out of the torrent scene, but I think it's safe to say What's all-music-archive dream is alive.

It might be a little late now, but in the early days, they seemed more than happy to have former What.CD users (provided they were in good standing) on board. There was an interview, but it wasn't a big deal.

Re: Foobar2000

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post #122

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What.cd was a massive loss for the entire internet. Some of What's Vanity house stars are now real stars with tours around the world, like "The Flashbulb"

You too found The Flashbulb via what.cd? Soundtrack to a Vacant Life is an incredible album.

I also found Flashbulb via what.cd vanity. Good stuff

Re: Foobar2000

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Foobar2000 was such a golden age of music discovery (mostly through piracy forums) for me in my teens, used to spend hours upon hours customising it and posting the results on Hydrogen Audio while weird and wonderful music was downloading from yousendit, rapidshare, soulseek, and megaupload. Bands I now go see live and support through bandcamp now that I'm not poor! So much more exciting and engaging than fucking Spo…

Ah soulseek! Those were the days. I'm sure I have a hard drive somewhere with like 100Gb of music from there.

Re: Foobar2000

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The good old days of listening test on Hydrogen Audio and Divx / Xvid video testing on Doom9. But as we have so much storage space and bandwidth the interest of newer, better audio codec wind down. 20 years later we still dont have anything that gives CD / 128kbps MP3 quality at half the bitrate. Instead we all went with 256Kbps AAC, and may be soon lossless. I wish MPC ( Musepack ) has taken off though, I still thin…

Opus at 64k~=Mp3 128k. There's still interest in better audio codecs in the commercial world, it's just more focused on streaming audio and voice chat these days.

The last listening test put Opus at ~90Kbps = 128kbps Mp3.
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