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Re: Foobar2000

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Post by symlinkk »

gglitch wrote: post #96

I didn't use it, but it looks to me like one of the main draws of foobar2000 was library/metadata management. I've only ever used directories in the filesystem as a "library," and have used many players over the years (mainly moc, which I love, but which doesn't bring anything especially valuable to the table--I mainly just like the UI and out-of-box key commands). Thus, to me, as an outsider, this whole conversation…

Foobar actually reads and writes to the ID3 tags on the actual music files themselves. So there is no lock in

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by suby »

gglitch wrote: post #96

I didn't use it, but it looks to me like one of the main draws of foobar2000 was library/metadata management. I've only ever used directories in the filesystem as a "library," and have used many players over the years (mainly moc, which I love, but which doesn't bring anything especially valuable to the table--I mainly just like the UI and out-of-box key commands). Thus, to me, as an outsider, this whole conversation…

Foobar had good options for using the filesystem as the library structure. Some of the options were user-made plugins rather than something available out of the box, but it all worked very well.

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by volkl48 »

stereolambda wrote: post #110
ropeladder wrote: post #60

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Same. Deadbeef comes close but it doesn't support all my foobar2000 metadata.

Can people who feel similar share what metadata do they miss the most? Maybe I'm a caveman, but I feel mostly satisfied with artist/title/album, plus maybe the year at most. I came to use filesystem directories for genre/mood tagging and then also artist/album obviously. It's crude, but usable and easily portable. I'm not claiming this is all one can wish for, but I'm curious. For this kind of library I found Audacio…

I collect live recordings, so there's a bunch of less common stuff I use a good bit: Date performed, handle of who recorded it, tour, a personal rating system for the recording quality, additional artists (special guests + the like), and general comments I might want attached to the file. ("clips at 0:40" or "heckler in the quiet part"). I may have 20 copies of the same song, and I may even have multiple recordings of the same song on the same night from different people.

At least for some artists, there's a huge number of show recordings out there. The guy who maintains the (unofficial, although known and tolerated by the artist) live archive for Nine Inch Nails is up to >1,000 recordings, for example.

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by nish_rev »

theptip wrote: post #139
antihero wrote: post #3

Foobar2000 was such a golden age of music discovery (mostly through piracy forums) for me in my teens, used to spend hours upon hours customising it and posting the results on Hydrogen Audio while weird and wonderful music was downloading from yousendit, rapidshare, soulseek, and megaupload. Bands I now go see live and support through bandcamp now that I'm not poor! So much more exciting and engaging than fucking Spo…

Agreed. Such a step back in power user features these days; being able to say "create a playlist of all songs in genre X with 4+ stars" or "Play 5 star songs I haven't listened to in at least 12 months" was amazing. It seems that the "stream any song instantly" usecase is winning out, but I really pine for some metadata / playlist overlay that I could use to regain this sort of control of my music streaming.

Navidrome added a feature similar to what you're describing (they call it smart playlists https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/releases/tag/v0.47.0). Beets also has something similar (https://beets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/plugins/smartplaylist...).

I replaced my usage of spotify with these two and its been great. I also enjoy having fine grained control over my listening, and streaming services were sorely lacking.

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by clearing »

noxvilleza wrote: post #86
clearing wrote: post #78

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THANK YOU for this recommendation. I've been trying numerous iTunes/"Music" alternatives but none have stuck, or their price point doesn't make sense for the offering. This looks perfect!

What about Clementine [ https://www.clementine-player.org/ ]? I used to love Amarok, so been using Clementine on Linux for the last few months.

I was excited by Clementine but it doesn't even open for me on this version of OS X unfortunately.

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by clearing »

pasdechance wrote: post #88
noxvilleza wrote: post #86

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What about Clementine [ https://www.clementine-player.org/ ]? I used to love Amarok, so been using Clementine on Linux for the last few months.

Can't forget the Clementine fork https://www.strawberrymusicplayer.org/

Ooh another good find. Like I mentioned above Clementine doesn't open at all for me, so maybe this is worth a shot.

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by oblak »

globular-toast wrote: post #75
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #6

Foobar is one of the greatest pieces of software ever and Linux music software only dreams it can be as good as Foobar.

I haven't touched Windows in over 10 years (Linux only) and foobar2000 is the only piece of software I miss. It wasn't the UI or anything. Amarok is probably better. It was just how solid the software felt. foobar2000 was the only thing I could trust to send the right bits to my soundcard when I wanted them to be sent. All other audio software felt like the actual audio part was an afterthought and a hack that just b…

can't easily use it with wine, though?

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by aaaaaaaaaaab »

sumobob2112 wrote: post #115
zelag wrote: post #15

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oink and what.cd. Ahh, the memories.

too bad nothing like oink exists anymore, I remember being an early uploader of some interpol albums. Also people just had great music tastes, you could go to any genre and sort and find heavy hitters you didnt know, who were amazing.

>too bad nothing like oink exists anymore

red, ops, slsk

Re: Foobar2000

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Post by chronial »

r1ch wrote: post #34

I remember writing a Foobar2000 plugin to emulate the Winamp API so my mIRC song spam scripts still functioned. It was buggy as hell as I was still new to C++ programming and it eventually got added to a hard-coded blacklist in the app for causing stability issues. I ended up open sourcing it and it still lives on 19 year later, about three forks deep and a lot more stable and functional. The power of open source!

Ah, good times – I was the one who initially continued development after you left off. Thanks again for open sourcing it back then :).
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