The Great Resignation? More Like the Great Renegotiation
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#2"The Great Resignation" feels a bit like a phrase that folks have grasped on to and just attach the narrative they want to believe to it.
Constant articles and such with very little data. Very frustrating as a reader.
The idea that amid a pandemic and such that there are a variety of reasons seems backed up by the data, although I admit that's what I'm inclined to believe / seen.
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#3> spectacles like the immense popularity of the "Anti-Work" thread on Reddit — have gone as far as to suggest this record-breaking trend is a movement of young, able-bodied Americans rejecting work altogether.
I don't think this is the point of "anti work". The point is (to me) that people should be treated equitably at work and that work shouldn't be the center of our lives
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#4"The Great Resignation" feels a bit like a phrase that folks have grasped on to and just attach the narrative they want to believe to it. Constant articles and such with very little data. Very frustrating as a reader. The idea that amid a pandemic and such that there are a variety of reasons seems backed up by the data, although I admit that's what I'm inclined to believe / seen.
Here's my thought: most employees are quite risk averse, and businesses have been able to take advantage of that in order to negotiate better for wages (better=lower wages). The pandemic essentially forced people into being more comfortable in taking higher risks. It turns out that marginal increases in risk taking translate into wage gains.
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#5"The Great Resignation" feels a bit like a phrase that folks have grasped on to and just attach the narrative they want to believe to it. Constant articles and such with very little data. Very frustrating as a reader. The idea that amid a pandemic and such that there are a variety of reasons seems backed up by the data, although I admit that's what I'm inclined to believe / seen.
You are doing that right here (narrative with little data). Even the NPR article says "the labor force participation rate remains significantly smaller than before the pandemic and it's still hard for employers to fill open jobs". There is data to back this up and it's not just a narrative.
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#6> spectacles like the immense popularity of the "Anti-Work" thread on Reddit — have gone as far as to suggest this record-breaking trend is a movement of young, able-bodied Americans rejecting work altogether. I don't think this is the point of "anti work". The point is (to me) that people should be treated equitably at work and that work shouldn't be the center of our lives
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#7"The Great Resignation" feels a bit like a phrase that folks have grasped on to and just attach the narrative they want to believe to it. Constant articles and such with very little data. Very frustrating as a reader. The idea that amid a pandemic and such that there are a variety of reasons seems backed up by the data, although I admit that's what I'm inclined to believe / seen.
Here's my thought: most employees are quite risk averse, and businesses have been able to take advantage of that in order to negotiate better for wages (better=lower wages). The pandemic essentially forced people into being more comfortable in taking higher risks. It turns out that marginal increases in risk taking translate into wage gains.
I'm inclined to agree that some folks who stayed home (by choice or not) found that ... it wasn't that bad and doing so to find something else probably seems easier than it was before.
My wife is possibly taking a leave to care for her father ... she's thinking a lot about if she wants to go back. If she wasn't taking a leave that first step / time might not be there to decide to do something else.
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#8The “great resignation” was always suspect.
Think about it - who would take care of all those people in the western world. I could see it happening in Asian cultures, but in the west? Nah. It’s not in us.
I mean seriously, did we ever check ourselves to think that people would just stay home?
Sure a certain percentage will — and that’s actually a good thing, especially families where both mom and dad worked. Since the cost of child care the and the benefit of caring for your own child is so great.
But with most government subsidies ending, I see a lot of parents getting pretty antsy with grown kids at home.
Let’s get real, people are going to have to get off their tukuses that they have been sitting on over the last few years and head back to some kind of work.
It’s good if they choose something more satisfying, but most people will not have that luxury and the world does not owe us anything.
So back to work you lazy bums!!
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#9"The Great Resignation" feels a bit like a phrase that folks have grasped on to and just attach the narrative they want to believe to it. Constant articles and such with very little data. Very frustrating as a reader. The idea that amid a pandemic and such that there are a variety of reasons seems backed up by the data, although I admit that's what I'm inclined to believe / seen.
You are doing that right here (narrative with little data). Even the NPR article says "the labor force participation rate remains significantly smaller than before the pandemic and it's still hard for employers to fill open jobs". There is data to back this up and it's not just a narrative.
The article seems to point to data that provides a variety of reasons.
Having said that I'm also not writing a news article so I think the standard for not having data is a bit different. I don't expect any random person on HN to source everything ... like I would a news article.
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#10> spectacles like the immense popularity of the "Anti-Work" thread on Reddit — have gone as far as to suggest this record-breaking trend is a movement of young, able-bodied Americans rejecting work altogether. I don't think this is the point of "anti work". The point is (to me) that people should be treated equitably at work and that work shouldn't be the center of our lives
Yes. Admittedly on the one hand what I see a lot is people embracing victimhood, relieving themselves or responsibility and self empowerment. That's the only aspect of anti-work that I don't like. Otherwise I think their message is very fair and very clear: raise wages to keep up with inflation, and treat workers humanely so people stop dropping dead of heart attacks on the job.