In western nations, a big contributor to lead in blood is ceramic items.[1] The 'clear' coating on the outside of cups, mugs, teapots, etc. often contains lead, and slightly acidic drinks or water will cause it to leach out. That has a much bigger impact than leaded paint, because you typically don't lick your paint. Lead glaze is most often used in artisan, novelty or complex items, because the lead oxide acts as a…
Around one-in-three children globally suffer from lead poisoning
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Leaded fuel is still in use in aviation. Not gonna lie, it sits poorly with me that a hobby for rich people can rain toxic chemicals on people below with little to no restrictions.
Jet fuel doesn't have lead in it. Avgas is 'low lead', and there's at one unleaded prop plane fuel available.
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#74> These impacts are thought to be largely irreversible I'm noticing this claim made a lot in various contexts these days, most notably relating to the pandemic (about both the virus and vaccines). In those contexts as well as this one, I feel like it's used in a weaponised way to emphasise the seriousness of the harm caused, but by doing this there's some abandonment of those who have been harmed and consigns them to…
In my state blood lead testing is mandatory at two different ages. I think blood lead surveillance is widespread. Treatment is simple.
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There are plenty of properties in the UK still fed by lead water pipes. It's not something people talk about often, but it can be a problem and should be part of a good property survey.
Our Victorian property still has a (shared) lead supply pipe. I've been repeatedly told it's not an issue due to (presumed) calcification on the inside of the pipe. All the interior pipework is copper. Our water was tested years ago by the waterboard and came back way below the legal limit. Yet still... I'm suspicious. Can anyone point me at resources to help prove it's unsafe?
Where was the water tested? I've heard that here in France, water is often tested before going into the pipes, and not after flowing for the faucet. If that's the case for you too, I'd encourage you to test the water going out of the faucet, since this is the water you actually drink. In France we can do that at labs that take care of stuff like blood samples. A naive search gave me this website https://watersafetestkits.co.uk/which-water-test-kit/ that sells water test kits, for example.
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> It's almost a non-topic in Europe since leaded gasoline was banned (I'm actually wondering why: no leaded paints in EU?) Leaded paints were certainly widely used as rustproofing primer on steel constructions, as a bedding compound, and as anti-fouling paint on boats. The traditional formula is a mixture of lead oxide and linseed oil, giving it a characteristic red color. Most of these uses are AFAIU nowadays banned…
That’s still much less serious than lead paint being used for the interiors of houses and apartments, which it was in the US until the 1970s. Was it in Europe?
I don't actually know about the situation in Europe in general, but e.g. Sweden prohibited lead paint for indoor use already in 1860, and France in prohibited lead-based indoor and outdoor house paints in 1909. Based on some quick googling it seems several European countries prohibited lead-based house paints (including outdoor paints) in the 1920'ies.
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#77I knew about lead poisoning for a while, but mostly in US context. It's almost a non-topic in Europe since leaded gasoline was banned (I'm actually wondering why: no leaded paints in EU?) If these numbers are true, why this is not on first pages of all media all the time? Crazy. I wonder how reliable are these numbers.
There are plenty of properties in the UK still fed by lead water pipes. It's not something people talk about often, but it can be a problem and should be part of a good property survey.
Re: Around one-in-three children globally suffer from lead poisoning
#78I knew about lead poisoning for a while, but mostly in US context. It's almost a non-topic in Europe since leaded gasoline was banned (I'm actually wondering why: no leaded paints in EU?) If these numbers are true, why this is not on first pages of all media all the time? Crazy. I wonder how reliable are these numbers.
It is VERY expensive problem to fix. Cleaning environment, replacing old pipes... Other issues like smoking can be milked on taxes. EU went quite far, even banning lead from solder.
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#79In western nations, a big contributor to lead in blood is ceramic items.[1] The 'clear' coating on the outside of cups, mugs, teapots, etc. often contains lead, and slightly acidic drinks or water will cause it to leach out. That has a much bigger impact than leaded paint, because you typically don't lick your paint. Lead glaze is most often used in artisan, novelty or complex items, because the lead oxide acts as a…
Re: Around one-in-three children globally suffer from lead poisoning
#80I knew about lead poisoning for a while, but mostly in US context. It's almost a non-topic in Europe since leaded gasoline was banned (I'm actually wondering why: no leaded paints in EU?) If these numbers are true, why this is not on first pages of all media all the time? Crazy. I wonder how reliable are these numbers.
> I'm actually wondering why: no leaded paints in EU? The dangers of lead paint have been known for over 100 years. France banned it in 1909. The League of Nations adopted a treaty on it in 1922. The US declined to join the treaty due to industry lobbying and didn't get around to banning it until 1978. By declining to ban it the US cost itself $Ts when accounting for the developmental delays, lost IQ points, health p…
Google tells me lead paint wasn’t banned in the UK until the 1990’s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-based_paint_in_the_Unit...
France was 1948, but lots of lead poisoned children anyways since the paint is still on buildings people live in.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13918871-200-lead-pai...