I don’t think that getting #1 ranking is INCREDIBLY hard. I’ve submitted stories that made it to #1. Sure, I didn’t write them myself, but my point is that if you have something interesting to say people will upvote you. It’s not all some big freaking conspiracy.
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#222His claims about HN are false. Short version: his post was 2+ hours later than Stripe's, not an hour earlier, and fell in rank because users flagged it, not because moderators did anything (which I suppose is what his mafia/mob language was intended to imply). The longer version is going to involve a tedious barrage of links, but I want this to be something that people can check for themselves if they care to. Quotin…
Honestly the fact you felt the need to try to answer up the claims by throwing dirt at one single point that they made makes it clearer to me then ever that the claims are true. Everyone knows that the best pr strategy when your being attacked by someone who's claims appear true to anyone who has their eyes open is to keep quiet and let it pass, instead you blew this up. I now believe them. Congratulations.
Well that's perplexing. I thought I responded to literally every concrete claim he made about HN.
The stuff about YC in general and Stripe in general I left out, partly because it's not my purview and partly because there's nothing concrete there.
Perhaps one day I will be zen enough to let false accusations fly by as I abide in bliss. Not there yet.
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#224Not related to this Bolt, but I remember that in early 2000s bolt.com[0] was a pretty active social network. Probably the first one I ever signed on to.
-https://web.archive.org/web/20000520042715/http://www.bolt.c...
Re: Bolt founder on Stripe/YC
#225Strange rant. Is the goal to attract investors and customers or fire up the troops? My only interaction with them was at the behest of a VC so it seems like they aren’t completely in the cold.
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#226I actually came across Bolt's founders twitter the other day. He was promoting how he saves time by being efficient. Funnily enough all the comments were along the lines of "you forgot time to actually live your life". I clicked through to his profile and found Bolt. I went to the homepage but I wasn't able to tell what exactly it was. From this post I understand it to be a Stripe competitor. I think Stripe will be v…
What's even more confusing is that https://bolt.eu is an Uber-like service in Europe. Too many bolts.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could a competitor have its employees flag a submission? Does HN have automatic vote manipulation detection? Does HN have automatic flag manipulation detection?
I have brought up the problem of flagging (or downvoting) in a HN post, but it got flagged. :)
Some threads/subthreads seem to have a gravity for flagging and downvoting (and upvoting!) that's wildy off average and hard to pin down to a cause. Did you check other posts around yours to see if they were getting flagged too?
Re: Bolt founder on Stripe/YC
#228His claims about HN are false. Short version: his post was 2+ hours later than Stripe's, not an hour earlier, and fell in rank because users flagged it, not because moderators did anything (which I suppose is what his mafia/mob language was intended to imply). The longer version is going to involve a tedious barrage of links, but I want this to be something that people can check for themselves if they care to. Quotin…
Honestly the fact you felt the need to try to answer up the claims by throwing dirt at one single point that they made makes it clearer to me then ever that the claims are true. Everyone knows that the best pr strategy when your being attacked by someone who's claims appear true to anyone who has their eyes open is to keep quiet and let it pass, instead you blew this up. I now believe them. Congratulations.
I disagree. The culture of staying silent when you know the attack doesn't have the full picture is worst.
I still think anything about PR erode our society in general. We prefer to hide, avoid telling the truth and discard any transparency.
I welcome the well formulated argument of dang. It contains his point of view and multiple missing facts about the situation.
By having both point of view and the different fact we can make our own mind about the situation. This is what critical thinking is about.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
dang, imho you’re trying too hard.
Sorry, but if someone makes statements about HN or YC that I know to be false, I believe it's my job to correct them—especially since we can't treat this kind of post in the way we normally moderate HN ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... ). What do you think I should do instead?
I can see someone who isn't convinced you're a fair operator taking the volume and detail of response as defensiveness, and that can look suspicious in a context like this.
They aren't right, but I can understand the perspective.
Re: Bolt founder on Stripe/YC
#230His claims about HN are false. Short version: his post was 2+ hours later than Stripe's, not an hour earlier, and fell in rank because users flagged it, not because moderators did anything (which I suppose is what his mafia/mob language was intended to imply). The longer version is going to involve a tedious barrage of links, but I want this to be something that people can check for themselves if they care to. Quotin…
Honestly the fact you felt the need to try to answer up the claims by throwing dirt at one single point that they made makes it clearer to me then ever that the claims are true. Everyone knows that the best pr strategy when your being attacked by someone who's claims appear true to anyone who has their eyes open is to keep quiet and let it pass, instead you blew this up. I now believe them. Congratulations.
If someone says 12 things and I know 1 of them is true, I can only rebutt that single point. If I do so clearly then certainly you should use that to weight their other claims.
If I try to argue about 11 things I'm not an expert on, it should downweight _my_ arguments on the 1 thing I actually know about.