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A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

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Re: A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

#11

OT: How do they pull off the gradual backgrund color shifts (no, you aren't seeing things)? I read the article sans JavaScript, so that's not it. I sort of like it at the moment, and all the colors provide a readable background for the text. It might drive me crazy in the long run. Still, I always appreciate a little innovation.

It’s all done with CSS animations [1].

The background specified in interconnected-2020.css [2] lines 8–9:

  background: #cdecff; /* lightest-blue */
  animation: changingbg 600s infinite;
Followed by the animation specified in lines 12–35:

  /* Calculated using
     https://www.joshwcomeau.com/gradient-generator/
     in LRGB mode with precision=8 and linear easing
     Colors: #CDECFF #FFCDEC #FEECCD #9EEBCF #CDECFF
  */
  @keyframes changingbg {
    from {
      background: hsl(203deg 100% 90%);
    }
    8% { background: hsl(233deg 68% 92%); }
    17% { background: hsl(293deg 52% 90%); }
    25% { background: hsl(323deg 100% 90%); }
    33% { background: hsl(344deg 98% 92%); }
    42% { background: hsl(16deg 97% 92%); }
    50% { background: hsl(38deg 96% 90%); }
    58% { background: hsl(78deg 44% 87%); }
    67% { background: hsl(137deg 50% 84%); }
    75% { background: hsl(158deg 66% 77%); }
    83% { background: hsl(185deg 62% 84%); }
    92% { background: hsl(191deg 87% 84%); }
    to {
      background: hsl(203deg 100% 90%);
    }
  }
[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Animati...

[2]: https://interconnected.org/home/static/styles/interconnected...

Re: A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think for the most part if you have a local economy on Mars, Earth time won't matter anyway. You can't realistically have video or phone calls with a 20 min ping so that kind of direct time sensitive communication goes out the window immediately. Given the clusterfuck that DST is, and that it's done purely because people think it's fun or whatever to move clocks in the summer, I have no doubts that the de facto Mar…

Worse, the ping changes a lot. From 3 minutes to theoretical 22, but if Mars and Earth are separated by the Sun, you would have to communicate through a relay, adding possibly other 10 minutes. Mars will be a digital frontier forever, or until someone discovers communication faster than light, which is impossible in our current model of physics.

I wonder how telecom would work for such a system. What would it be like to sit down at a computer, or open up your phone, and access a web page hosted on another planet? Would everything be mirrored to the local internet and synchronized periodically? Would you simply not be able to participate in most features we take for granted on the current web?

Re: A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me that as we reach such levels of advancement that time will gradually start to lose meaning. Even if we continue to die on about a 100 year interval, the fact that during such interval one could experience millions of years of history will again really blur any meaning. It leads to lots of really interesting and fun sci-fi that somehow hasn't really been dug into sufficiently yet along the same lines as…

>It leads to lots of really interesting and fun sci-fi that somehow hasn't really been dug into sufficiently yet along the same lines as the Twin Paradox It's been done. I mean, time dilation in general, and a fast ship catching up with a slow ship in particular. I would guess 50 years ago-ish practically every variation had been done. Tau Zero was a notable example. I don't know when the genre started, but it's easy…

Yeah, so much of golden age sci-fi is about relativity, its a bit baffling to say it’s not been dug into yet. If anything, it’s been overdone to the point of being tropey.

Re: A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worse, the ping changes a lot. From 3 minutes to theoretical 22, but if Mars and Earth are separated by the Sun, you would have to communicate through a relay, adding possibly other 10 minutes. Mars will be a digital frontier forever, or until someone discovers communication faster than light, which is impossible in our current model of physics.

I wonder how telecom would work for such a system. What would it be like to sit down at a computer, or open up your phone, and access a web page hosted on another planet? Would everything be mirrored to the local internet and synchronized periodically? Would you simply not be able to participate in most features we take for granted on the current web?

Ordering anything from Earthly e-shops would certainly be a challenge :) No free same day delivery there, unless you bought some downloadable stuff!

I guess the contents of planetary Internets will just be synchronized periodically, the physical limitations do not really allow for a different solution.

Re: A meander through Martian minutes and the meaning of local time

#15

OT: How do they pull off the gradual backgrund color shifts (no, you aren't seeing things)? I read the article sans JavaScript, so that's not it. I sort of like it at the moment, and all the colors provide a readable background for the text. It might drive me crazy in the long run. Still, I always appreciate a little innovation.

It’s all done with CSS animations [1]. The background specified in interconnected-2020.css [2] lines 8–9: background: #cdecff; /* lightest-blue */ animation: changingbg 600s infinite; Followed by the animation specified in lines 12–35: /* Calculated using https://www.joshwcomeau.com/gradient-generator/ in LRGB mode with precision=8 and linear easing Colors: #CDECFF #FFCDEC #FEECCD #9EEBCF #CDECFF */ @keyframes changi…

Thank you!
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