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Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by dpark »

ghshephard wrote: post #105
pennaMan wrote: post #84

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>80% of people couldn't distinguish I.V. cocaine from I.V. caffeine in some study I am unable to locate at the moment That is complete bullshit.

Curious - do you have something to back that up? Caffeine is pretty toxic ( I think the LD50 is something like 200 mg/KG of body weight. 20 grams would kill most people) and I don't find it surprising that an IV mix would have pretty serious effects.

The question is whether the two are somehow indistinguishable (to 80% of people, at least).

IV bleach would also have pretty serious effects, but likely no one would confuse it for cocaine.

The onus is on inter_netuser to provide evidence for the claim, not for pennaMann to refute it. I would imagine that literally no study exists comparing the effects of intravenous caffeine and cocaine, because who would possibly fund that study, and to what end, and what review board would approve it?

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by jimmaswell »

idontwantthis wrote: post #102

Very effective, but quickly diminishing returns for me. If I do one pill a week, that day is awesome. But as soon as I step it up to 2 I'm overwhelmed and might even take a nap I wouldn't have otherwise. This is only 100mg. But the reason I stopped taking it is that I'm just a salaried employee. It doesn't matter if I'm super focused or not. I'm still getting paid the same amount. There's no point in artificially ele…

It can pay off to establish a good reputation pulling through on an important tight deadline, but a situation needing that should be the exception.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by ActorNightly »

Fezzik wrote: post #3

I’ve wanted to try Modafinil for a long time but I’m too nervous to order it online. My doctor won’t prescribe it to me, saying it is only for extreme narcoleptics, though I think the real reason is that its street value is pretty high… because it works.

In general, law enforcement only has a limited number of resources, and its going to use those to go after things that are seen as a "problem". People ordering drugs from online pharmacies (with legal prescription) happens on such a wide scale that its absolutely pointless to set up resources to try to find those that don't have legal prescriptions.

If you really are worried buy a prepaid visa card with cash, and use a vpn.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by ei8htyfi5e »

nojs wrote: post #58
ei8htyfi5e wrote: post #25

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I took it heavily in grad school. Prescribed off label for adhd. You can be in any state of exhaustion, take a modafinil, and an hour later feel like you just woke up on a Sunday morning after sleeping in. It’s nuts. The military uses it for fighter pilots. You can take it for days and only lose minimal amounts of reaction timing. At my peak, I stayed up for finals for a week straight with maybe 2 hours of sleep tota…

> I stayed up for finals for a week straight with maybe 2 hours of sleep total I’m confused when I read anecdotes like this. Are you staying you literally slept for 2 hours over the course of 7 days, averaging 17 minutes of sleep per night for a week? I think that’s very unlikely!

Yes. I slept for 2 hours on Wednesday under my desk on a camping pad. You don’t have to believe me. If anybody on HN ever outs me, there were a lot of people who can corroborate this.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by inter_netuser »

dpark wrote: post #110
inter_netuser wrote: post #59

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Caffeine would be illegal to possess, if it were invented yesterday. 80% of people couldn't distinguish I.V. cocaine from I.V. caffeine in some study I am unable to locate at the moment, which I think involved Nora Volkow from NIH, either as PI or collaborator.

You remember the topic and the name of the PI but still can’t find this study? I am relatively certain that’s because it does not exist. The idea that caffeine is comparable to cocaine is pretty nuts. People murder to get cocaine. When’s the last time anyone murdered for Starbucks? I can totally believe that if you give someone who’s never done drugs a high dose of caffeine and tell them it’s cocaine, they might beli…

I'm not sure if it was Volkow, or even if she was a PI. She does a lot of research at the NIH on drugs of abuse, but I'm not sure it's her paper.

I am quite certain the study exists, because I recall her talking about the findings, and then reading the abstract.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by sockpuppet69 »

dpark wrote: post #110
inter_netuser wrote: post #59

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Caffeine would be illegal to possess, if it were invented yesterday. 80% of people couldn't distinguish I.V. cocaine from I.V. caffeine in some study I am unable to locate at the moment, which I think involved Nora Volkow from NIH, either as PI or collaborator.

You remember the topic and the name of the PI but still can’t find this study? I am relatively certain that’s because it does not exist. The idea that caffeine is comparable to cocaine is pretty nuts. People murder to get cocaine. When’s the last time anyone murdered for Starbucks? I can totally believe that if you give someone who’s never done drugs a high dose of caffeine and tell them it’s cocaine, they might beli…

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Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by ei8htyfi5e »

marcan_42 wrote: post #75
brimble wrote: post #36

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"Have to", maybe not. Will perform better if they do, probably. Will be outcompeted by others if they don't, many of whom only did better because they used drugs, yes. It took me half a lifetime to really come to grips with it, but fact is, winners absolutely do use drugs. William S. Sessions' anti-drug arcade game ads lied to me.

Maybe school shouldn't be a competition with winners and losers.

Maybe most schools but I went to the top school (most years) so it was. …and I had imposter syndrome, so I did everything I could to keep pace.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by inter_netuser »

cjohnson318 wrote: post #97
inter_netuser wrote: post #59

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Caffeine would be illegal to possess, if it were invented yesterday. 80% of people couldn't distinguish I.V. cocaine from I.V. caffeine in some study I am unable to locate at the moment, which I think involved Nora Volkow from NIH, either as PI or collaborator.

Shooting in the dark here, but I imagine dose size is an important variable in a study like this. At 500mg, I'm pretty sure a member of the LDS* could tell the difference between coffee and cocaine. [*] I'm only calling out the LDS community here because they don't consume coffee, or cocaine, generally speaking.

ever heard of the mormon tea?

They just drink ephedrine instead of caffeine.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by diamondlovesyou »

brotchie wrote: post #12

Modafinil is a pretty amazing drug. The come down after one use isn’t too bad. But if you’ve been using it daily for a week, the comedown is BRUTAL: pretty much feel like you have zero energy and feel like laying prone for 8 hours. Once did 48 straight awake on it and felt wide awake 36 hours in… Distinctly remember the 1st time I took it. Was perhaps 8pm at night and I swore it was 8am in the morning and I’d just ha…

Funny. The couple of times I took Modafinil, it might as well have been placebo. Absolutely no effect. I gave the pills away.

I have ADD, and am prescribed 60mg Adderall XR/day. OTOH, I have slept on 30mg Adderall XR a couple of times, so maybe I'm just "built differently" w.r.t. The Stimmies.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by aunty_helen »

glerk wrote: post #61
nostromo wrote: post #26

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I've purchased prescription drugs from Indian pharmacies online and they take a while to arrive, but they do make it through customs and arrive and they are legit. The funny thing is, I mostly do it because I don't want to go to the doctor every six months to say "mother may I" for a very mild and safe statin. My insurance would pay for everything, but it's such a pain to do.

I always find it incredible that in our free and civilized societies an adult isn't allowed to decide what chemicals he can put in his body. He must first beg for them.

I live in a “third world” “dangerous” and “corrupt” country.

My food delivery app has modafinil from any of the local pharmacies or I can get it at the mall on the way back from the gym. In fact, I can get most medications this way and I don’t have to pay the 30$ it would cost me to see my doctor if I was in my home country.

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