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An Experience with Modafinil

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Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by glerk »

nostromo wrote: post #26
Fezzik wrote: post #3

I’ve wanted to try Modafinil for a long time but I’m too nervous to order it online. My doctor won’t prescribe it to me, saying it is only for extreme narcoleptics, though I think the real reason is that its street value is pretty high… because it works.

I've purchased prescription drugs from Indian pharmacies online and they take a while to arrive, but they do make it through customs and arrive and they are legit. The funny thing is, I mostly do it because I don't want to go to the doctor every six months to say "mother may I" for a very mild and safe statin. My insurance would pay for everything, but it's such a pain to do.

I always find it incredible that in our free and civilized societies an adult isn't allowed to decide what chemicals he can put in his body. He must first beg for them.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by xyzzyz »

elipsey wrote: post #40

Honestly, where does anyone even get it in 2022 USA without paying $200 for a permission slip, and then $500/fill? It's like trying to buy "research chemicals" in the 90's :/

There are sites that sell online the original blisters from India.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by argc »

nojs wrote: post #58
ei8htyfi5e wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took it heavily in grad school. Prescribed off label for adhd. You can be in any state of exhaustion, take a modafinil, and an hour later feel like you just woke up on a Sunday morning after sleeping in. It’s nuts. The military uses it for fighter pilots. You can take it for days and only lose minimal amounts of reaction timing. At my peak, I stayed up for finals for a week straight with maybe 2 hours of sleep tota…

> I stayed up for finals for a week straight with maybe 2 hours of sleep total I’m confused when I read anecdotes like this. Are you staying you literally slept for 2 hours over the course of 7 days, averaging 17 minutes of sleep per night for a week? I think that’s very unlikely!

probably a slight exaggeration

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by staticassertion »

nostromo wrote: post #26
Fezzik wrote: post #3

I’ve wanted to try Modafinil for a long time but I’m too nervous to order it online. My doctor won’t prescribe it to me, saying it is only for extreme narcoleptics, though I think the real reason is that its street value is pretty high… because it works.

I've purchased prescription drugs from Indian pharmacies online and they take a while to arrive, but they do make it through customs and arrive and they are legit. The funny thing is, I mostly do it because I don't want to go to the doctor every six months to say "mother may I" for a very mild and safe statin. My insurance would pay for everything, but it's such a pain to do.

> and they are legit.

How do you know? Do they have a lab certification/ is there a regulating body?

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by inter_netuser »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #39

Tried it a few years ago. It does work. The feeling of laser sharp focus and high energy is quite pleasant and is clearly helping to work for long hours. But it ended up with a severe burn-out in my case. Not 100% sure it was the Modafinil, but retrospectively I think it made me drain my batteries a lot quicker. My advice, if you need to work a lot, the best nootropic you can get is good sleep, healthy food and a bit…

That's quite likely, because you do not have a clinically significant disorder that needs to be treated.

drugs have a U-shape response curve, where those who are already at their personal optimal/best, will usually find risks outweigh benefits. Some even have nothing but side-effects, happens, but rarely.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by Flankk »

maxerickson wrote: post #9
Flankk wrote: post #2

Is this person insane? Four hours of sleep and six cups of coffee per day? Lay off the drugs and get a good 8 hours sleep.

What's wrong with 5 cups of coffee a day?

Studies show that moderate caffeine consumption (2-4 cups per day) has beneficial health effects. Excess consumption is linked to adverse effects. There is an optimal dose when it comes to caffeine. Building up tolerance to where you need six or more cups is where you get into trouble.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by ianbutler »

A friend of mine has used this before and they did alternating low ~30mg doses that same someone had previously used a similar dose Adderall in highschool and early college and preferred the feeling of Modafinil.

They told me they had read multiple studies before hand as well as personal accounts (such as from the venerable https://www.gwern.net/).

That person told me that the feeling was less intense but enough to keep the significantly longer periods of focus without feeling complete lock-in like you might experience on other similar drugs. That said, they also did say the dehydration was heavy and to keep that in mind.

They said the reason they alternated was they had found that given the longer 15 hour-ish half-life they felt effects strong enough the following day that if they dosed again it started making them feel uncomfortable. That said they are typically very sensitive to most substances. They also felt that you should do your dose early enough, 7-8am, so that by the time 1am or so rolls around you can still get mostly a normal sleep.

They also told me that one time they had done multiple consecutive doses and the come down depressive like symptoms were just as bad as the same symptoms from coming off consecutive doses of Adderall. They thought that if you're prone to dangerous depression this one might not be for you.

They did not endorse doing this but to each their own.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by nostromo »

staticassertion wrote: post #64
nostromo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've purchased prescription drugs from Indian pharmacies online and they take a while to arrive, but they do make it through customs and arrive and they are legit. The funny thing is, I mostly do it because I don't want to go to the doctor every six months to say "mother may I" for a very mild and safe statin. My insurance would pay for everything, but it's such a pain to do.

> and they are legit. How do you know? Do they have a lab certification/ is there a regulating body?

They come sealed from reputable manufacturers and pharmacies in India that you can read about online.

I suppose someone could create fraudulent drugs, but honestly, it's probably cheaper just to sell you the real deal. And just like other businesses they want your repeat business.

I know they are the real drug in my case because I take them for mildly high blood pressure. It's trivial to measure blood pressure, and I can see that they have the same effect as the American drugs of the same dosage.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by thePostFuturist »

ei8htyfi5e wrote: post #25
brotchie wrote: post #12

Modafinil is a pretty amazing drug. The come down after one use isn’t too bad. But if you’ve been using it daily for a week, the comedown is BRUTAL: pretty much feel like you have zero energy and feel like laying prone for 8 hours. Once did 48 straight awake on it and felt wide awake 36 hours in… Distinctly remember the 1st time I took it. Was perhaps 8pm at night and I swore it was 8am in the morning and I’d just ha…

I took it heavily in grad school. Prescribed off label for adhd. You can be in any state of exhaustion, take a modafinil, and an hour later feel like you just woke up on a Sunday morning after sleeping in. It’s nuts. The military uses it for fighter pilots. You can take it for days and only lose minimal amounts of reaction timing. At my peak, I stayed up for finals for a week straight with maybe 2 hours of sleep tota…

The rumour is Limitless (the movie with Bradley Cooper in the early '10s) was modeled on Modafinil, the side effects being "inspired by" as well. I didn't have the peripheral vision failures to register, but the death like fatigue is real.

Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by fortran77 »

I love modafinal. I was able to get a legit prescription for it from a doctor for "Adult ADD"

You are _awake_ but not the way caffeine or ritalin do it. You're not buzzing. Just _awake_.

However, it didn't do anything for my ADD so I didn't use it for more than a month. For a while I used my remaining supply to de-jet-lag myself after an international flight. (Pre-pandemic, I'd do an international flight about once/month.) It worked well for this. I'd use it to stay awake the first full day I landed, then my clock would be fine.

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