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Re: Nova by Panic

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I don't understand why every editor these days come with a minimap, and many of them turn it on by default. I know Sublime introduced it but what does it do exactly? Why is everyone copying it? It just shows you the shapes of blocks of texts of a long file from ten meters away. It doesn't tell you what they are or what they do, or even how to get there. Every IDE since at least the early 2000s gave you an index or a…

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Re: Nova by Panic

#92
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $100, its coming in close to IntelliJ all product pack (I've had it since the Mayan end of the world). Its also quite a bit more than BBEdit (which I've had since If it was closer to BBEdit (which I've had since System 6 days), I'd consider switching the text editor - it looks nice. For me , the price per year compared to products that I already have that have more functionality would be for something that I don't…

You own Nova for life at $99, it's only a recurring cost if you want updates. Subsequent years are $49. ...Whereas the all product pack is $250 a year to use .

The all product pact for an individual who has had it for more than 3 years is $150/year.

I bought IntelliJ on Dec 19, 2012 in their end of the world clearance sale ( https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2012/12/20/jetbrains-end-of-... )

Though yes, the price if you're comparing a new purchase is $250/y.

Still, it's trying to get in the spot somewhere in the lineup of IntelliJ, BBEdit ($30 for an upgrade license, $50 for a new one, good for about 2-3 years with updates), and VSCode.

Re: Nova by Panic

#93

I don't mind native apps, but if the trade-off is that it's platform exclusive then that's unacceptable in 2022. Platform exclusivity is such a massive step backwards.

I’ve loved Panic for a long time, going back to Audion back in the day.

Nova is the artisanal indie Mac app at its best. But unless your use case is exactly what Nova was designed to do, it doesn’t quite meet your needs.

Like a lot of people have essentially said, I love the concept of Nova, but it didn’t quite measure up.

In the meanwhile, Neovim (my primary editor) has really taken off and while some of the GUIs for it are great, they don’t have the fit and finish and polish of something like Nova.

Now if someone were to create a Panic-like UI/UX for Neovim, I’d pay for that in a heartbeat.

Re: Nova by Panic

#94

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> but they don't do equity If it's an independent business since 1997 the implication is they're not for sale, so equity wouldn't be likely to achieve any liquidity, hence relatively meaningless.

Just like Mailchimp! "We're never going to sell! Oh, hold up, you said twelve billion? With a B? Uhh, okay, we need to talk."

Exactly what came to my mind as well.

https://medium.com/project-tinker/mailchimp-just-screwed-ove...

https://slashdot.org/story/21/11/11/1634237/intuit-slashes-p...

https://www.businessinsider.com/insider-weekly-mailchimp-ube...

Similar situation with Epic and other firms taking on lots of investment, but freezing employees out of any gains.

Re: Nova by Panic

#95
post #32

I don't understand why every editor these days come with a minimap, and many of them turn it on by default. I know Sublime introduced it but what does it do exactly? Why is everyone copying it? It just shows you the shapes of blocks of texts of a long file from ten meters away. It doesn't tell you what they are or what they do, or even how to get there. Every IDE since at least the early 2000s gave you an index or a…

I've found minimaps to be useful when you're also using linters or compilers - you can quickly jump to the next error by looking at the little red dots or lines on the minimap.

Re: Nova by Panic

#96
Nothing to do with the IDE but I just want to point out that the homepage design is sick. The 3D space in the background did not affect the scroll performance and it adds a really good vibe without affecting the UX. Love it!

Re: Nova by Panic

#98
I tried Nova when it first launched and again recently, and I switched back to VSCode due to the numerous plugins and prodigious output of its creators every month.

In my opinion, Nova (through its lack) shows the true power of network effects, even in code editors, because even though VSCode is an inferior product in many respects, like speed and resource usage, it still wins due to its sheer popularity and extensibility. In a way, it is the story of JavaScript itself: a bad language that only works due to its popularity; as one uses JS, one continues to use JS as others do too, creating a virtuous cycle.

Re: Nova by Panic

#99
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You own Nova for life at $99, it's only a recurring cost if you want updates. Subsequent years are $49. ...Whereas the all product pack is $250 a year to use .

I don't think many people don't want updates. I would guess that if someone is willing to pay $100 for it (because the person likes the features that Nova has over their other tools), that it's likely that person will also want the new shiny features every year. Also, I wouldn't be surprised that some plugins might take advantages of some new features.

I rarely add plugins to my IDE, I could see myself lapsing in payment.

Making the distinction between licensing and ownership is important either way.

Re: Nova by Panic

#100
post #32

I don't understand why every editor these days come with a minimap, and many of them turn it on by default. I know Sublime introduced it but what does it do exactly? Why is everyone copying it? It just shows you the shapes of blocks of texts of a long file from ten meters away. It doesn't tell you what they are or what they do, or even how to get there. Every IDE since at least the early 2000s gave you an index or a…

True. I rather prefer the Structure Tab that Jetbrains IDEs have. That one is more useful to me.
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