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Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by PabloOsinaga »

shykes wrote: post #36
PabloOsinaga wrote: post #29

I wonder - has anyone ever tried the approach of the entire VM binary image being the repo and doing smart bindiffs as changes? The trick would be to identify what is "code/config/program code" vs random/temp files. In code tracking you do it manually by saying don't track. Here you'd need a bit more intelligence, but seems like doable. And you could create then like a git for machines. I may be too simplistic / not…

That's exactly what Cloudlets does. http://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets

or is your perspective that something as simple as this https://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets/blob/master/sample.clo...

would work?

Wound't the system become a nightmare once I start installing/changing stuff in the machine in a very organic way?

Meaning, I'd have to go and maintain that manifest???

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by joelhaasnoot »

sayhello wrote: post #3
giberson wrote: post #2

Any support for the new Win 8 developer preview? I'd love to have a development environment to start playing with new Metro App development..

Olivier here, a stackrocket co-founder. We only support Mac os x at the moment as a client, and Linux as the dev environment. That said, we will be looking to expand at some point. At this stage, we want to make sure we nail down the correct way of solving this problem.

Mac only really is a bummer. I realize that there's a large and vocal crowd of developers doing that, but there's also a big Windows/.NET crowd you could easily be targeting with this. Seeing this on Windows would be great, if you use the open source VirtualBox you can easily make cross platform images.

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

shykes wrote: post #40
themgt wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen the dotcloud "build files" for specifying services? I wonder if trying to encourage standardization among cloud/app hosts on a service specification file like this would be beneficial, similar to Gemfile/Procfile/etc. service 'redis', '~> 2.2.2' http://docs.dotcloud.com/guides/build-file/

dotCloud team here. If there's interest, we'll happily contribute our specs and code to get things started.

I'd love to. I'll email you soon.

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #42
sayhello wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Olivier here, a stackrocket co-founder. We only support Mac os x at the moment as a client, and Linux as the dev environment. That said, we will be looking to expand at some point. At this stage, we want to make sure we nail down the correct way of solving this problem.

Mac only really is a bummer. I realize that there's a large and vocal crowd of developers doing that, but there's also a big Windows/.NET crowd you could easily be targeting with this. Seeing this on Windows would be great, if you use the open source VirtualBox you can easily make cross platform images.

You are right. Windows is on the roadmap. We wish we had it today!

We don't have windows right now, but I'm sure that will be a major driver for user acquisition.

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

danellis wrote: post #37
sayhello wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do have a product and a couple of companies as users. That said, we're in private beta. If you're interested, sign up and shoot me an email. I'd like to learn more about what you're interested in.

No information about pricing, though?

Free for now to our private beta users. But we plan to have something similar to github when we begin to charge.

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

KMEthridge wrote: post #46

It may just be me, but I tried clicking some emphasized text because it looks just like the links. E.g. I tried to click "or make your own..." in "Use our stacks, or make your own..."

We will fix that. It's confusing, I agree

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

PabloOsinaga wrote: post #39
shykes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what Cloudlets does. http://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets

That's nice. seems to be the infrastructure required for building such system. question is how do you come about building the manifests? Users need to do that???

I think there needs to be a higher level abstraction.

Blueprint is a nice step in that direction: make a change and dump out the environment.

Perhaps what we need is a system that compiles to that manifest, or to chef/puppet.

Setting up systems is a complex task that neither puppet nor chef solve, they make it less daunting, but it still is a real pain to do so!

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by shykes »

PabloOsinaga wrote: post #41
shykes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what Cloudlets does. http://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets

or is your perspective that something as simple as this https://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets/blob/master/sample.clo... would work? Wound't the system become a nightmare once I start installing/changing stuff in the machine in a very organic way? Meaning, I'd have to go and maintain that manifest???

In practice, most of the work happens in the base image. Future versions simply extend the manifest with a few extra lines.

Ideally you want to "compile down" to cloudlets. With smart change management tools you can make it really simple for the user. That sounds exactly like Stackrocket's cup of tea :)

Re: StackRocket: Build and share virtualized dev stacks, start coding in minutes

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Post by sayhello »

shykes wrote: post #49
PabloOsinaga wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or is your perspective that something as simple as this https://github.com/dotcloud/cloudlets/blob/master/sample.clo... would work? Wound't the system become a nightmare once I start installing/changing stuff in the machine in a very organic way? Meaning, I'd have to go and maintain that manifest???

In practice, most of the work happens in the base image. Future versions simply extend the manifest with a few extra lines. Ideally you want to "compile down" to cloudlets. With smart change management tools you can make it really simple for the user. That sounds exactly like Stackrocket's cup of tea :)

Didn't see your comment. Yes indeed, that's exactly what we're working towards =)
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