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Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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My probably a bit naive take: The MBAs take over and implement KPIs that might even be well-intentioned but are ultimately easiest to satisfy by cutting corners. For example: KPI that measures market share of Edge; instead of making Edge better to increase its share, just screw your users by making Edge default on Windows on every other update. I've seen it happen at my own company, and while I always had pipedreams…

If their MBAs set-up KPIs that reward this kind of behaviour, they need better MBAs. Instead of "get more people to use Edge", it should be "get more people to choose Edge". Neither people nor geese respond well to having stuff rammed down their throats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

How about no MBAs?

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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> where all these critical Windows-only applications are The vast majority of users would suffer if forced to use only Linux apps. Think Office Vs LibreOffice or Photoshop Vs GIMP. A lot wouldn't be able to work at all, like the folks who use Solidworks. Let's not pretend that browser/terminal/IDE is the most common usage of PCs.

I would suffer if I had to use Windows applications. Because having to pay (or even pirate) quality paid software that I have to sit and learn is less convenient than downloading pretty good free (as in beer) software that I've used for the past 5 years and I'm very comfortable with. GNOME applications are surprisingly polished and good, and I'm not getting that on Windows.

I'm one of those who use Solidworks and there are no Linux equivalents, let alone polished ones. So, as in everything, YMMV.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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> Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine Not random, but my current machine. How else am I (or random person on the Internet) to migrate to Linux then? Create an entire new machine just for Linux? That is a pretty hefty price. E.g. You bought an expensive nVidia card. Yeah, throw it away. Get AMD. Want dual monitors. Throw one away... I honestly dread switching to Linux. > Certainly some people have…

Worth noting a lot of people had to upgrade their computer for Win10 (2 of my relatives were told they had to buy new computers by Windows but I managed to upgrade them with out after lots of fiddling), a lot will have to upgrade for Win11 (to get TPM2 modules). I think the answer to the last one is if you need Microsoft software then use it. Not much you can do if your chosen vendor doesn't support other OS (WINE, V…

TPM 2 plus a BIOS update for any board made pre August of 2021, & 60GB or so of free space on their OS drive, which these days is also more of a rarity since the trend has been small OS SSD drive with large secondary & storage drives.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

There is also a Linux distribution called "WindowsFX 11". Try it out, very recommended.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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It seems weird that when a company grows beyond one point they start these user hostile practices. Google is another example. When they are small they are more open to innovation than manipulating user into using their product. What goes wrong?

These practices are nothing new for M$, they did that in the past (15-20 years ago) with IE, then got several slaps on the wrist, which made them cut back on it for a few years, but now they seem to be thinking that if IE/Edge is no longer the dominant browser they can start using these tricks again?!

Probably, since just like back then with IE, Edge is now baked into the OS as well.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Yeah, the answer is to simply not use Windows. I can only see there being an advantage for some game developers to be using it these days. Linux is actually a much better OS for techies: you can make it look nicer, have a better workflow, and you can really play games now that Steam Deck brought so much focus on Linux compatibility. Otherwise, Mac OS is doing just fine as well.

Unfortunately laptop driver support is often rough. I used an XPS 9343 (one marketed as supporting Ubuntu) but I faced issues with popping speaker sounds and mobile data tethering sucking GBs of data for some crazy reason.

Had a similar experience with a Dell preshipped with Ubuntu. Also wouldn't go to sleep when I got it, was crazy. Eventually started working maybe after bios update but was pretty frustrating
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