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Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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No copy and paste keys? Seems like another badly designed keyboard.

It has them, actually; legends are printed on the front of the keycaps. Here's a picture: https://kuritakey.zone/next-non-adb-keyboard-aae/

Appreciate the negativity though!

Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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Nelson seems to have been using a Rigol benchtop scope and some proprietary software that came with his generic logic analyzer. But from long experience I'm wary of investing my time in proprietary vendor tools. Does anyone have a good overview of the free-software signal-analyzer-software/oscilloscope-software landscape? I've played with sigrok a little bit, enough to get it to decode some PS/2 signals I captured on…

Haven’t used them ever, but Red Pitaya[1] had a compelling pitch. [1] https://redpitaya.com/

Thanks for the link.

Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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I like to think that there's an alternate universe where the entire industry adopted NeXT's idea of replacing the dedicated Caps Lock key with a Command+Shift key combination, because it's such a smart and obviously correct thing to do. Sadly, I'll never live in that universe.

After your post and looking at the keyboard I finally understand how mechanical keyboard enthusiasts can use winkeyless keyboards. You probably won’t need caps lock and it’s enough to have command and alt at the bottom.

Too bad windows and Linux don’t come with standard layouts that are more like Mac and probably next.

Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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I like to think that there's an alternate universe where the entire industry adopted NeXT's idea of replacing the dedicated Caps Lock key with a Command+Shift key combination, because it's such a smart and obviously correct thing to do. Sadly, I'll never live in that universe.

Sinclair Spectrums (and possibly the older ZX81s) used a keypress combination (CAPS SHIFT + SYMBOL SHIFT) as well. It's not invented by NeXT.

Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

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Nelson seems to have been using a Rigol benchtop scope and some proprietary software that came with his generic logic analyzer. But from long experience I'm wary of investing my time in proprietary vendor tools. Does anyone have a good overview of the free-software signal-analyzer-software/oscilloscope-software landscape? I've played with sigrok a little bit, enough to get it to decode some PS/2 signals I captured on…

Check out Sigrok: https://www.sigrok.org

Re: Reverse engineering the 1988 NeXT keyboard protocol

#39

I like to think that there's an alternate universe where the entire industry adopted NeXT's idea of replacing the dedicated Caps Lock key with a Command+Shift key combination, because it's such a smart and obviously correct thing to do. Sadly, I'll never live in that universe.

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