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How big was the Tonga eruption?

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Re: How big was the Tonga eruption?

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> Also poster apparently means US states, not like physical states of a system. I think the article means "state" in the sense of "country," not US State.

Okay okay, I changed States in Nations, better now?

I fear you will soon learn that nation is not capitalized and strictly speaking refers to a group of people, not a geographical region.

Re: How big was the Tonga eruption?

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What I'm curious about is whether this was equivalent to, or larger than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa Also whether it will turn the sky red for months.

My understanding is it's smaller even than Pinatubo, which happened in living memory, and significantly smaller than Krakatoa.

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you could make your point without being derisive and ableist, especially considering the people involved have credentials and are trained in their fields.

But it creates "engagement" which is rewarded these days apparently. Also, I thought the trained people should have learned a thing or two from Pompei not to build near volcanoes. I'll cut some slack for the people who designed Pompei, they didn't know, but everyone after that should have learned.

Pompeii was a Pyroclastic flow not lava.

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> I mean, how fucking dumb do you need to be to look at a lava flow and cut a road or train track through it? Do they not realize that lava means "run"? Build infrastructure elsewhere. Right, and nobody should build cities on rivers or coasts, because rivers flood[1] and coasts get hurricanes that cause floods, nobody should build anything in valleys[1], because they flood, nobody should ever build anything in mounta…

> Right, and nobody should build cities on rivers or coasts,

Many ancient civilizations knew not to build on coasts. Beijing, Xi'an, Cairo, Rome, Paris, Mexico City, Madrid, London, Moscow, Kyoto, most of these cities of critical governmental and strategic importance were not built on coasts for very good reasons.

And then you have some modern hipsters after the 17th century who decided not to take a history lesson and started to build NYC, Shanghai, LA, Tokyo, Shenzhen, Singapore, Washington DC, and other cities on the coasts. Note that none of these cities have much history to them, for a reason. Not a good plan. Humans are pretty dumb.

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I don’t understand. Literally all of Hawaii is built on top of lava flows. Are Hawaiians dumb idiots for building roads and other infrastructure on top of lava flows?

At least they're smart for putting most of their population on the inactive islands like Oahu.

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> And then you have idiots that build train tracks and highways right through lava I was disappointed to see no active lava flows in your linked image. What you show is simply a road and train tracks built on top of rocks.

Lava will likely flow there again the next time Shasta erupts.

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you could make your point without being derisive and ableist, especially considering the people involved have credentials and are trained in their fields.

I'm assuming you meant to write ableist, in which case, how is the above comment ableist?

I had to read it several times to get it, but I think they’re referring to “dumb” which could also refer to people who can’t speak.

The funny thing about this is that I simply read “dumb” as “stupid” and didn’t make any connection to being mute - but thanks to the earlier comment I’ve now made the association. So, well done policing the discourse, I guess?

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But it creates "engagement" which is rewarded these days apparently. Also, I thought the trained people should have learned a thing or two from Pompei not to build near volcanoes. I'll cut some slack for the people who designed Pompei, they didn't know, but everyone after that should have learned.

Pompeii was a Pyroclastic flow not lava.

OK, I meant more like "dangerous hot shit that wipes out everything in its path" in a general sense.

If someone gave me a contract to build something in modern-day Herculaneum I would say no. I think it's irresponsible to build there. In terms of lives lost it's tantamount to knowingly shipping a hundred 777s with loose screws that cause them to crash.

The number of downvotes on this thread is also exactly why we have disasters with volcanic eruptions. This is like the geological equivalent of a bunch of antivaxxers.

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