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Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by jiggawatts »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #226
jiggawatts wrote: post #136

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Oh, that's nothing . Windows Update can forcefully power-on a sleeping laptop, and then do 100% CPU load for a decent chunk of an hour whether you like it or not... ... while your laptop is in your laptop bag. This destroyed one laptop for me already. It very nearly caught fire on a crowded train with no way to even throw it off for safety. I keep saying: Microsoft will keep ramming this crap down people's throats un…

What does "very nearly caught fire" mean? Was smoke coming oot? Not doubting, just curious.

Burnt electronic smell, melted plastic, dead laptop.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by tejohnso »

rightbyte wrote: post #140
gambiting wrote: post #94

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>>Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? Is this....a real question? I'll bite - because Chrome signs into my google account and it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone. I literally couldn't care any less what core it uses, the usability aspect is just better than in Edge.

> it seemlessly remembers everything I do between my PC, my laptop and my phone That is not a feature, unless you are OK with Google spying on you.

Many people are ok with trading privacy for convenience, or even basic fashion, or a bit of short term excitement. "I have nothing to hide".

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by [deleted] »

w4rh4wk5 wrote: post #290

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I've been exclusively using Windows 10 since 2016 on my main rig as well as my laptop. While there are a lot of small annoyances, for me, it's been far from _on a daily basis_. I'd say, from 360 days in the year, I spend maybe 10 days dealing with some Windows bullshittery. These are the things I changed on my system: - Disable Windows Defender real-time scann…

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by thorin »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #105
pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.

I've used win 8 and win 10 exclusively for years but have never seen an advert. Is this because I have the business (enterprise) edition, not the home version?

I'm not sure how good or bad Bing, Edge etc are as I only use them occasionally, but it does seem concerning that Microsoft has changed these defaults during an update. Is this even legal, post anti trust etc?

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by dmead »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #105
pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.

To be fair, Ubuntu also has had advertisements in the menus.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by [deleted] »

prawn wrote: post #219
qbasic_forever wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.

Frustrating thing is it's hard to escape. It's petty, but one of the most infuriating episodes of my life was Apple forcing that U2 album into everyone iOS owner's existence and making it difficult (impossible at the time?) to delete. I'd forgotten all about it until, a couple of phones later, it reappeared as the first song played every time I connected my phone to the car. Petty, like I said, but enraging. Having s…

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by luciusdomitius »

Either install Linux or accept that the actual owner of your PC (and no, this is not you). is going to do whatever they want with it.

There is no third option really.

"Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together, but do so with all your heart." M. Aurelius

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by kdtsh »

nulbyte wrote: post #286
kdtsh wrote: post #277

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I finally transitioned to Linux on my work desktop at the end of last year, after using WSL for a number of years and Linux on my home desktops for ages. I found that managing a Windows 10 VM in virt-manager for all the Windows-specific stuff is fine at the moment - nothing in particular has broken in my workflow. I find there’s slightly less mental overhead, but I haven’t yet figured out a good way to manage little…

Can you elaborate on your issues with VNC? I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to 'steal a session. Are you using Wayland or X11? I understand there may be some differences, but haven't explored them. GNOME has desktop sharing built-in. I believe it is VNC based, but maybe you'll have better luck with something built into GNOME. SSH forwarding works fine for single apps, but for a true remote X desktop, I've…

By ‘steal a session’ I mean be currently logged into my computer, either with the desktop locked or unlocked, and to jump onto another computer and log into the same session - so I get all my open programs, windows, etc. if that makes sense. The understanding I got was that this simply isn’t possible with VNC, or if it is it’d a major stuff-around. This really makes or breaks Remote Desktop for me.

I’m using Wayland, which is the Fedora 35 default. I considered X11 but the experience isn’t quite as smooth for the day-to-day stuff in Fedora and I just didn’t want to work around odd quirks if I could avoid it.

I tried the GNOME desktop sharing, but as far as I could see you need to be already logged in to jump in. Besides that it worked OK, though I recall screen resolution being a bit strange, like having 1024x768 or similar which is really quite small for GNOME’s big windows. I never looked into whether these issues I found were configurable, but they don’t seem to be easily accessible options if they are.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by immibis »

anthropodie wrote: post #87
pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

It seems weird that when a company grows beyond one point they start these user hostile practices. Google is another example. When they are small they are more open to innovation than manipulating user into using their product. What goes wrong?

They run out of improvements and start focusing on value extraction?

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by pc86 »

pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

Do you have any advice for someone who currently develops about 90% on Windows and ~10% (or less) on Mac, and wants to switch to Linux? Other than "just do it and get through the initial pain" which I think is a totally valid response.
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