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Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by _trampeltier »

schleck8 wrote: post #85
intsunny wrote: post #29

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? Any similar stories? Based on this very recent comment, even the creaters of Windows do not: This has been the case for a while. I worked on the Windows Desktop Experience Team from Win7-Win10. Starting around Win8, the designers had full control, and most crucially essentially none of the designers use Windows. I spent far too many years of my career sitting…

> Based on this very recent comment, even the creaters of Windows do not: I made a joke about this after the Windows 11 update introduced the new right click menu, meaning things like 7zip and my file reputation tool where all an additional click away for no apparent reason other than putting bigger spacing and more icons. That just had to be designed by atleast someone who doesn't power use Windows, and maybe even d…

I use Win10 on work and Linux at home. Last week I had to help some "not-so-tech" guy to copy and paste files in the Win11 File Explorer. Now there are just Icons for copy, paste etc. But there are two kind of computer user. The one who just use the shortcut and the other with the menu. But now they search for "copy" or "paste" but now there is no menu entry. There are just Icons on top of the context menu. So a less technical user has with just Icons a much harder life.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by kamray23 »

cute_boi wrote: post #76
Ygg2 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, the answer is to simply not use Windows. Yeah, no. You either switch to Mac and lose 99% of your applications and some of your hardware. Or you switch to Linux and lose 90% of your applications and latest hardware; And enjoy random problems and figuring out which of hundred answers online is right. Answer could be none, because for example Wayland support for multiple monitors sucks.

It depends what you work on. I have installed popos like 2 years ago. I have 0 issues so far. For web development, nodejs etc. Linux is better than windows by a miles. Not everybody is graphics designer, video editor who needs Photoshop, Microsoft Excel etc. And, I haven't found any random problems at least on PC. It might be problematic in laptop, which I honestly don't know.

Yeah, I run Arch and despite it being a kind of "hobbyist" type system, after the initial configuration, there are no problems or constant maintenance. I have had a few things break sometimes because I accidentally install a partial update, but that's obviously my own fault.

Also, part of the problem people have with Linux is that it does not run Windows programs and they complain because they can't get QEMU or VMware or WINE functioning correctly. You shouldn't need those. When you switch to Linux, you lose your software. It's a reality you accept, because that software you used was not designed for Linux. Instead of trying desperately to get your old software to run, you instead use alternatives, be they open or closed, to run what you want. There are more than a few alternatives, many of them having similar or exceeding the power of paid windows-only products.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by mkup »

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis?

For work: Windows 7 installed using FlashBoot Pro.

For games: Windows 10 Ameliorated + Firefox + FoxyProxy + SOCKS5 proxy on the router (github.com/rofl0r/microsocks) combined with default-to-deny firewall rules to filter remaining telemetry and updates.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by lionkor »

Ygg2 wrote: post #96
kelnos wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to run Linux on a computer, you do your research and build/buy one where the hardware support is there. Most people don't need "latest" hardware; hardware from 2-3 years ago is fine, and, honestly, most latest hardware works fine too -- again, if you do your research. Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine (especially if it's a laptop) will often fail, and that's why people spend hours on…

> Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine Not random, but my current machine. How else am I (or random person on the Internet) to migrate to Linux then? Create an entire new machine just for Linux? That is a pretty hefty price. E.g. You bought an expensive nVidia card. Yeah, throw it away. Get AMD. Want dual monitors. Throw one away... I honestly dread switching to Linux. > Certainly some people have…

You're just making stuff up now. I bought an RTX 2070 (nvidia, as you know), and it worked fine, runs all my games, under archlinux just fine.

Same with dual, triple monitors, etc.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

premun wrote: post #83
coryrc wrote: post #25

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> I just went and resetted it back to Chrome. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

Exactly, why would anyone prefer Chrome to Edge? They both are built on the same Chromium core but Google adds a bunch tracking with merging your website logging together with your browser account.

Edge interferes with other web sites. I was purchasing an item from Amazon when it started popping up messages about other suppliers.

If I didn't make my living writing Windows software I would have left the platform a long time ago.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by ur-whale »

gvExwLi6sU wrote: post #127
qbasic_forever wrote: post #105

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Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.

Had to install Windows 11 yesterday and the fresh install had Facebook, TikTok, Xing, Spotify and more on the start menu as shortcuts. No clue, if they are actually fully installed but I was able deinstall and remove them through the context menu. May vary for other contries as Xing is very specific and only relevant for German speaking countries.

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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by SquareWheel »

executesorder66 wrote: post #150

There never was a "new microsoft". They are still the same shady business that they have always been.

Companies are often made up of teams with differing goals and ambitions. The folks working on WSL, VS Code, Github and other popular projects are quite different than those making predatory decisions like these. They very well may <3 Linux and believe in open-source.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by grujicd »

makach wrote: post #38

Huh? Without asking the user? I received an update, and Edge asked me to update my settings. I respectfully clicked no and nothing changed. For the novice user, there might be a use-case where this is a good solution, to revert settings settings in case you somehow messed them up.

After a restart I was presented with a screen which asked me whether to change or keep default browser settings. I clicked on "keep" and pretty much everything stayed the same.

Did OP got this question?

Edit: d'oh, didn't realize question was about Win 11. I'm still on Win 10 and Win 8 on my machines.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by _trampeltier »

I used always Windows and Linux at home, since 1996. I tryed Win10 but decided thats not form me. Candy Crush an XBox all over the place, bad privacy etc. I deleted all Windows when Win7 support ended. Now I have even 3 never even booted diskimages with new, never used Windows licences. I'm not using Linux because it is free. I even bought many times Linux Distro CDs and later DVDs in the 90s. I'm using Linux because of freedom and respect.
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