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Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by rbanffy »

asddubs wrote: post #26
rbanffy wrote: post #13

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? Any similar stories? My advice is that, unless you are developing for Windows is don't. If you need the Adobe tools, you can get them for Macs and, since M1, Macs offer a lot of bang for the buck while being a perfectly usable Unix machine, they are an excellent choice. If you don't need tools that aren't available on Linux, then Linux is a really good option.…

hardware support isn't so bad these days. you can get basically any AMD graphics card and be fine, nvidia works too although it fights with wayland a bit (but supposedly that's getting better too) laptops are a little more problematic but if you try to install linux on a random laptop, chances are everything will just work too. thinkpads are always a safe bet, in any case. or get something made for linux like a syste…

The advice to go for the most boring laptop possible is out of this. I would avoid laptops with dual graphics (integrated and discrete) as much as possible. That's more or less what System 76 does. Dells are usually trouble-free unless you want a "mobile workstation" or gaming laptop. Full support for Intel's 12th gen will probably take a while to trickle down to mainstream distros (you should be fine if you compile your kernel from upstream though), so, if you are on the market now, I suggest 10th or 11th gen. Or wait a couple months.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by jmnicolas »

kelnos wrote: post #79
Ygg2 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, the answer is to simply not use Windows. Yeah, no. You either switch to Mac and lose 99% of your applications and some of your hardware. Or you switch to Linux and lose 90% of your applications and latest hardware; And enjoy random problems and figuring out which of hundred answers online is right. Answer could be none, because for example Wayland support for multiple monitors sucks.

If you want to run Linux on a computer, you do your research and build/buy one where the hardware support is there. Most people don't need "latest" hardware; hardware from 2-3 years ago is fine, and, honestly, most latest hardware works fine too -- again, if you do your research. Grabbing a random machine and expecting it to work fine (especially if it's a laptop) will often fail, and that's why people spend hours on…

> and, honestly, most latest hardware works fine too

True: a bit more than a year ago I bought a new computer with (I think) a B550 chipset motherboard which was very recent.

Wasn't supported by Kubuntu 20.04, I just had to install Kubuntu 20.10 and that's it.

IMHO Linux hardware isn't a problem at all. Software is more problematic (I had a lot of side projects WPF apps that can't run on Linux and I'm a bit lazy to port them to another framework or language so I have installed a Windows VM.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by rbanffy »

medo-bear wrote: post #93
SantiagoElf wrote: post #24

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I have been using Linux since Redhat 6.2 back in 1998. I have had my share of xconfig edits, bash scripts, etc explorations. I am now reaching 36, I just like 'things that work' - like Windows. Windows works with all my hardware, with all my 7 laptops, with all my 2 towers, I can install Visual Studio 2022 on it, I can install Ubuntu in WSL2 and I can play Dota2/Civ/Baldur's Gate/Warhammer 40k Insquisitor Martyr/list…

without games windows would crumble. what has been changing in the past few years is the ammount of support given to gaming on linux as well as nvidia actively developing drivers for linux due to the machine learning community. it will be interesting to see how this develops also, as someone who has to keep a windows machine for availability of certain applications that have no linux versions yet, the statement that…

That's why Linux is a workstation OS. If you need a Playstation OS, the choice of hardware is obvious ;-)

> also, as someone who has to keep a windows machine for availability of certain applications that have no linux versions yet, the statement that "windows just works" is bs in my experience

For a very limited set of values of "works". ;-)

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by pimeys »

ra423 wrote: post #54
SantiagoElf wrote: post #24

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I have been using Linux since Redhat 6.2 back in 1998. I have had my share of xconfig edits, bash scripts, etc explorations. I am now reaching 36, I just like 'things that work' - like Windows. Windows works with all my hardware, with all my 7 laptops, with all my 2 towers, I can install Visual Studio 2022 on it, I can install Ubuntu in WSL2 and I can play Dota2/Civ/Baldur's Gate/Warhammer 40k Insquisitor Martyr/list…

> And then go back to my family - because not worrying about Wayland, that new driver or that new update or "that new thing "- suprsingly leaves a lot of time that you can spend with your family :) What about the times when windows take forever to "getting things ready". I once spent around two hours updating windows. And just after the reboot there were ten new updates.

My partner was about to get back from the office, bringing food. It was 8pm, and everything set for tomorrow with Windows. Except at this point it needed to update, and for a specific reason the computer needed to be in a working condition the next day and updates of course installed. Two hours later it was still updating, and we were eating in the end 11pm...

My NixOS machine updates in a few minutes even when it needs to compile some custom things. And it will not change settings without me changing the configuration. If it does, I can just reboot to the older version and file a bug report...

Edit: has anybody tried to install Windows on ZFS or Btrfs? If update does something you don't like, just boot to a snapshot and get rid of the update.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by qbasic_forever »

pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

Advertisements in the start menu around Windows 8 was my tipping point. It's just a trashy thing to see candy crush and other crap in there that I never asked for, never could remove, etc. I went to Ubuntu and now PopOS and haven't looked back in almost 10 years. Maybe they've cleaned things up and removed the crap in later Windows but the damage is done and I'm never going back.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by mlazos »

anthropodie wrote: post #87
pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

It seems weird that when a company grows beyond one point they start these user hostile practices. Google is another example. When they are small they are more open to innovation than manipulating user into using their product. What goes wrong?

Organic growth opportunities from gaining market share or acquiring users disappear and the new people they hire have to “make an impact”

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by major505 »

adamddev1 wrote: post #35
prohobo wrote: post #14

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Yeah, the answer is to simply not use Windows. I can only see there being an advantage for some game developers to be using it these days. Linux is actually a much better OS for techies: you can make it look nicer, have a better workflow, and you can really play games now that Steam Deck brought so much focus on Linux compatibility. Otherwise, Mac OS is doing just fine as well.

Unfortunately laptop driver support is often rough. I used an XPS 9343 (one marketed as supporting Ubuntu) but I faced issues with popping speaker sounds and mobile data tethering sucking GBs of data for some crazy reason.

Thats why I changed to thinkpads. They seen to use less weird hardware with no support. But I had to do some concessions. I don`t use notebooks with discrete gpus, since NVIDIA optimus have shit support.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by ecdouvhr »

oleg_antonyan wrote: post #73

Windows had become "xbox firmware" before they realized this and released WSL. And now they're trying to make it great for web surfing again

Ironically, the new Edge update for Xbox one made the browser so slow it's nigh unusable; loading times, is almost a whole minute, it often crashes when streaming video, and it feels slower than the non-Chromium predecessor.

Before the Chromium update, on the other hand, Edge was an excellent browser considering it ran on a gaming console.

Re: Last Windows 11 update changed all default browser settings to Edge

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Post by pcdoodle »

SantiagoElf wrote: post #6
pizza234 wrote: post #4

> How do you deal with Microsoft's crap on a daily basis? I don't; I develop on Linux. Ignoring this, within my very limited usage of Windows, it seems to me that MS has become increasingly more hostile over the last few years or so. To answer with something actionable: I discourage people from upgrading to Windows 11.

Windows is pretty much alive and kicking. The best it has been since Windows XP. WSL2, running Linux on Windows, VS Code, VS 2022, it's all good. Windows 11 is VERY solid and you can play lots of games on it too :) I am dead serious. I have been using Windows since 3, using betas of Microsoft products since Longhorn - right now, Windows is reaching it's PEAK in terms of performance, ecosystem. Sure, they will need 2-…

I disagree. This is the dark ages for windows, basic users and power users alike.
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