try to connect same network/wifi you have used to connect your device or native place where you have frequently used your device. you can open you Gmail id. If this not help you to fix , try to reset password in a Desktop/Laptop on chrome browser
Ask HN: Gmail account security
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Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security
#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
The beauty of AI is that it's likely no human can say precisely why two similar users might get a different classification.
...and the beauty of the Internet is that there's really no way to be sure people are being genuine...
tbf, that is the beauty of people in general and not the Internet
Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security
#603try to connect same network/wifi you have used to connect your device or native place where you have frequently used your device. you can open you Gmail id. If this not help you to fix , try to reset password in a Desktop/Laptop on chrome browser.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security
#604I've lost two Gmail accounts (like firstname.lastname@gmail.com) because of this. Now I'm using only nickname accounts and not tying them to anything important.
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#605I have a theory:
It is impossible to have anonymous reliable email accounts nowadays.
Today a lot of data are collected. For those data to have any value they need to be quality data, so that they can be used. Many would think for AI, but what is more lucrative maybe is to sell them or services based on them to government intelligence in USA. Similarly, maybe government is also putting pressure that accounts of big providers are not mass used or hacked by adversaries. Google may have some hidden deals.
Starting with Facebook, Google, Microsoft as the biggest ones, you are forced by all means to have non-anonymous accounts. Google accounts measures point to one direction: tell them your identity. Make sure you are in that location, no VPN, tell them you phone number when you register an account, etc, so they know it is you for sure.
This makes it impossible to use Google, etc, anonymously. It is impossible to open any Google account, as I do not want to drop my VPN, or give them a phone number. I also have 2-3 accounts of Google open many years before, when these restriction were not so bad in place. I was relying on them for various things. I assume since a while, that I will loose access to those any moment and I am not using those much anymore.
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#606Had this. It was telling me to try again 'later'. Ok, i did 'try later' every day for three weeks, and they didn't let me in. Using the very same IP address as I used to always access it, no less. Then, I gave up, moved all my services to another email account, and after 2 or 3 months tried logging in, and it suddenly allowed me to log in. Needless to say, I will never again use gmail for critically important things.
I make a habit of 1. Forwarding everything to my free tier google apps for business on my domain 2. Annually logging into my throwaways. it seems if i login to them once a year from home, they dont pull this. 3. do NOT attempt to login to my throwaways from a proxies connection (SSH/SOCKS on a VPS or something like that, which i frequently use at work)
> my free tier google apps for business on my domain
your habits are going to have to change soon...
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#607Oh that is CREEPY.. means if I lose the devices I'm using to sign into google, I can't sign into google no more, even if I have the password.
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#608Once upon a time I worked at Google. I returned to Austin to visit old friends and took the opportunity to visit the Google office there. The Googlers sitting around me were primarily corporate sales. They weren't getting any corporate sales calls at all as far as I could tell, but there was one extremely irate user who was locked out of their GMail account and was repeatedly calling them because they were the only h…
You’d wonder why they have corporate sales. I’ve worked in enterprise for a long time and we’d laugh at the notion whenever someone suggested we buy any Google service because easy access to phone support when things go wrong is one of the key selling points in enterprise.
It’s why Microsoft has done so well for itself in this area over the decades. Sure Office helps, but the fact that your operations guys can be on the phone with their Seattle based offices, and get hourly updates where Microsoft calls you, when something big goes wrong is pure gold to any IT manager in any enterprise. Not only because it lets you solve issues faster, but also because you can tell the organisation that IT is on the phone with Microsoft’s head offices and you are working on a solution with them.
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#609They also do this thing now where they block [1] smaller browsers (even ones using the latest version of chromium) under the guise of security. According to their docs they're fighting MITMs by generally disallowing any browser they can't identify (so the big few). If you're not on a whitelisted browser by Google, you can't log in (effectively, use) any of their properties. This feels very anti-competitive to me. Not…
I use a proxy service (VPN) and gstatic.com blocks my requests. This breaks reCAPTCHA which defeats its entire purpose. It also breaks every site that uses Firebase. About 50% of sites load their fonts from Google and they appear with all text invisible and finally appear after about 3 seconds. A few sites, even government sites, refuse to display any content at all until they load their JavaScript from Google.
Browsing from this Google-blocked VPN has been an eye-opening experience. Google tech is pervasive and makes the web hostile for everyone practicing online hygiene.
When Google first blocked my proxy, suddenly search in Gmail and Drive stopped working. This was my paid Google business account. I tried to contact Google Support but found I couldn't log in. I carefully wrote down a Google Support PIN several years ago. When I tried to call Google Support, the PIN didn't work. Apparently, Google Support PINs expire after an hour. So I learned that Google provides zero support for login problems, even for paid accounts. That's a massive risk. I switched my business accounts to Zoho. It took about 4 hours to sign up and move over my domain + email + docs + spreadsheets + drive. I've been using Zoho for about 3 weeks now and it's fine. Zoho Email search is good. They let people create support tickets without logging in. And humans respond to the tickets within hours.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security
#610Earlier quoted context omitted.
The beauty of AI is that it's likely no human can say precisely why two similar users might get a different classification.
...and the beauty of the Internet is that there's really no way to be sure people are being genuine...
It's not that important whether these reports are genuine or not. The important point is that many people are not surprised by these reports. Google has long failed people's trust in them.