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22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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Disagree. Didn't have YouTube, Google, etc and still cracked video game protections when i was 10.

What were your resources to learn this?

"Unzip rar file, copy, paste."

Probably just used warez from torrents like everyone else did when they were that age.

Re: 22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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Let's hope he's a lot more careful with the chemicals than the early chip makers were. Most are now Superfund sites:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superfund_sites_in_Ca...

These are just the semiconductor manufacturer names I recognize offhand. Many more companies on the full list:

   Advanced Micro Devices
   Fairchild Semiconductor
   Hewlett-Packard
   Intel
   Intersil
   Monolithic Memories
   National Semiconductor
   Synertek

Re: 22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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There are ten thousand semiconductor engineers kicking around Silicon Valley and Albuquerque and Portland, and another hundred thousand in Shenzhen and Taipei and Seoul. So conservatively ten million people know a semiconductor engineer. Instead of focusing on the problem that only one person in a thousand knows a semiconductor engineer, we should figure out how to fix the much worse problem that out of the ten milli…

There are probably 1000s of logic designers kicking around Silicon Valley, probably not 10s of thousands. These days little semiconductor engineering is happening there, all the new fabs have been built elsewhere for decades now

I'm talking about process engineers, not logic designers, and most of them retired 25 years ago. But a lot of them are still alive.

Re: 22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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Amazing! "Zeloof says he doesn’t know for sure what he wants to do after graduating this spring" - I hope we don't hear later that he went to work for FAANG. One the saddest things about Big Tech is how they take young talent away from innovative, potentially competing enterprises and into busy work internal projects just because they can.

So much talent gone to FAANG. Also, where is my flying car?

> Also, where is my flying car?

In the same place where the majority of currently existing car drivers are potentially able to competently operate vehicles in the air.

I think while flying cars still have a technical component to the whole problem, the larger issues with flying cars aren't rooted in tech.

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I believe everything you're saying! But also, please understand that what he's accomplished here is monetarily out of the reach of your average American as well. Especially the average American teenager. The article notes that his dad is a very successful engineer, so roughly speaking he's almost certainly in the top 5-10%. Most homes do not have garages of this size and most garages are not climate controlled as thi…

So what? Why does it matter if his parents have money and are able to help him with knowledge? It is still amazing that the universe produced this kid who could do it. Suppose it would be possible while poor, and only his high IQ enabled him to do it. Then it would still be his luck for having parents with genes that produced high IQ in their kids. So it would still be "privilege". What's more, his parents don't just…

Wow, you took that in a different direction. Seemingly responding to all kinds of things I never said.

I think you are, at a minimum, really missing out on some context?

My post was a direct response to a parent poster who mused about how this sort of thing is possible in America, whereas it's nearly impossible for most Europeans. I responded by pointing out that this sort of thing also isn't possible for most Americans.

    Or what is the reasoning behind privilege theory?
Not sure what you mean. There's no "theory" in my post. I was not making some grand statement about society or the nature of privilege or whatever the heck else you imagined I was talking about. It would seem to me that you sure wanted to do that, though.

This kid seems super talented, and I'm glad that he seems to have parents with the inclination and means to support this sort of thing.

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I believe everything you're saying! But also, please understand that what he's accomplished here is monetarily out of the reach of your average American as well. Especially the average American teenager. The article notes that his dad is a very successful engineer, so roughly speaking he's almost certainly in the top 5-10%. Most homes do not have garages of this size and most garages are not climate controlled as thi…

> The article notes that his dad is a very successful engineer... The Wired article? Where does it say that? I only see reference to the skeptical engineer consulted by the father.

You're correct. I misread the article and thought the engineer was his father, not his father's friend.

Re: 22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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I believe everything you're saying! But also, please understand that what he's accomplished here is monetarily out of the reach of your average American as well. Especially the average American teenager. The article notes that his dad is a very successful engineer, so roughly speaking he's almost certainly in the top 5-10%. Most homes do not have garages of this size and most garages are not climate controlled as thi…

He went to CMU - I haven’t met someone who comes from a modest middle class family who went to CMU. I’m sure they exist but I haven’t found them and I’ve met quite a few grads. The guy comes from an affluent family. The privilege is obvious from a mile away. Still cool and all but in no way should anyone read this as a “oh, why wasn’t I able to do that” or “why aren’t more kids doing this?!” type of thing. It speaks…

Most prestigious universities offer deep discounts ("need-based financial aid") well into the upper middle class. At my parents’ income level, Harvard would have been free. UChicago was about half price, in the ballpark of my local state flagship. CMU expected us to pay the full $60k.

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Kicking ass is one thing, clearly it's an expensive hobby to following through the chipmaking history. The dedication is impressive, but, as long as his hobby doesn't affect the current paradigm, he's not kicking ass, but just a micro-celebrity on YT with expensive hobby + flexing. Note that I wrote this comment, because I just don't like blind positivity. Money is really a problem. There were people who talked about…

I didn’t realize there was a formal definition of ‘kicking ass’.

Yeah, I know. I'm just a type of person who (over-)reacts to blind appraisals and optimism, which never dig into the actual details. Many people lick the surface, wow, party and leave - which is in the direct collision course with people who seek some seriousness. That's how "suckers make haters".

Welp, welcome to the internet.

Re: 22-year-old builds chips in his parents’ garage

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I'm more interested how he managed to master the knowledge of chip manufacturing plus a ton of electronics repairs (see his microscope and other equipment) at such an early age. Very admirable. Look at what he did: > Photolithography machines are expensive—up to $150 million—and so Zeloof made his own by bolting a modified conference room projector bought on Amazon onto a microscope. It projects his designs at tiny s…

He has support from his family.

So did I and I'm not that smart
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