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Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by kome »

entropie wrote: post #408
friedturkey wrote: post #391

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Google sometimes blocks me from searching using Firefox, saying it’s “suspicious activity” and sending me into captcha hell that always rejects my results after several screens for no reason. It’s incredibly transparent as to what they’re doing. That Google became the most anti-consumer company out there is pretty disgraceful.

> Google sometimes blocks me from searching using Firefox, saying it’s “suspicious activity” and sending me into captcha hell that always rejects my results after several screens for no reason. That happend to me only when using tor.

that happens to me all the time, i have no idea why. i'm using firefox.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by IronWolve »

Google security allows you to use a titan key, but then still ignores it if you use an android phone, not the best security, since phones can get sim jacked. (common way to get your ecoins hacked, take over your phone.)

Defeats the purpose of a titan key and 2fa enabled.

There is no option to turn off android auth confirmation popups, so you have to de-activate all signed in google phones, and remove google account on your cell for more security and stop trolls from spamming you, if your phone number is public. People been asking google for years to fix this major fubar.

Google auth is designed by idiots, to be as easy as possible, but bad actors can abuse.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by igetspam »

leoh wrote: post #470
steelframe wrote: post #445

Once upon a time I worked at Google. I returned to Austin to visit old friends and took the opportunity to visit the Google office there. The Googlers sitting around me were primarily corporate sales. They weren't getting any corporate sales calls at all as far as I could tell, but there was one extremely irate user who was locked out of their GMail account and was repeatedly calling them because they were the only h…

You are actually pointing out a tremendous opportunity that Google has internally and externally. I work at Google and recently tried to file a bug about the calculator embedded in search. It was dastardly difficult to find how to file the ticket. It took me maybe an hour. A better system for filing tickets internally and for filing and triaging tickets from external users would be a tremendous asset for Google.

Did GUTS not survive? When I left, it was pretty solid. Some very close friends of mine spent years on that system. Haven't thought about it in a while but it was so simple and easy. Then again, that was a decade ago.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by JamesAdir »

kelnos wrote: post #332
alerighi wrote: post #188

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My solution is, buy your own domain. It's cheap and it will cost you only 20$ a year or something like that. I'm not saying run your own email service (I do, but I recognize that it's complex and not worth for most people), but use a public email service (like also GMail) with your own domain. That way at least if you no longer can access your account, or you get banned, or whatever, you don't loose your address (sin…

I agree with the advice to get your own domain, and then use a service to manage email for it. But don't use GSuite/Google Workspaces/whatever they're calling it now. Your Google account will be somewhat crippled and will be missing a bunch of features, because Google has just decided GSuite accounts should not have those features. And you can't convert your account to a regular Google account. I really want to untan…

I had this week to transfer a small account of 2.5GB between 2 google workspace accounts. All paid accounts. It took 3 days to transfer the 2.5GB account with Google's data migration process. Downloading and uploading the emails with Thunderbird would have taken maybe 3 hours at most.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by martyvis »

steelframe wrote: post #445

Once upon a time I worked at Google. I returned to Austin to visit old friends and took the opportunity to visit the Google office there. The Googlers sitting around me were primarily corporate sales. They weren't getting any corporate sales calls at all as far as I could tell, but there was one extremely irate user who was locked out of their GMail account and was repeatedly calling them because they were the only h…

I've subscribed to Google One for a few years. (When I say "pay", I'm using credit from answering surveys from Google a few times a week). It's only a couple of dollars a month, it gives you more online cloud storage, but it also gives you a chat and call service to Google. I have used it a couple of times - once to help me push LG to release updates on a phone (they kept saying it was Google's responsibility), another to one get my wife properly added to be able to use the Home smart speaker. Both times chat was followed up a call to a real person (that was understandable, and willing to chase up and respond to the issue). I feel if I had an account issue it would similarly work out.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by osrec »

Why the heck is running a your own email server so complex?! I run my own email servers, as does my company, and they can be an absolute pain at times. Once you've got everything settled, they're okay, but still, they're unnecessarily fiddly things to get working.

It should be easier, much much easier. Then we can all stop relying on external providers for substandard email services.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by paulryanrogers »

chefandy wrote: post #479
friedturkey wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google sometimes blocks me from searching using Firefox, saying it’s “suspicious activity” and sending me into captcha hell that always rejects my results after several screens for no reason. It’s incredibly transparent as to what they’re doing. That Google became the most anti-consumer company out there is pretty disgraceful.

I use google constantly— sometimes hundreds of times per day— both logged in and out, almost exclusively in Firefox or Firefox developer edition and I've never encountered this. I'd bank on it being a network thing— VPN, overcrowded proxy, etc.

The beauty of AI is that it's likely no human can say precisely why two similar users might get a different classification.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by webXL »

Arshxd wrote: post #474
RubyRidgeRandy wrote: post #461

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only tangentially related but that phrase is a pet peeve of mine. You are always the product if you are using software - free or paid. Netflix is sure as hell going to use your data the same way youtube would. The only exception of course is most but not all FOSS.

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Looking at Apple's latest hardware changes, I think users are once again the customers.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail account security

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Post by rr808 »

JaimeThompson wrote: post #59
devb wrote: post #53

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Can I ask which news? I'm already a happy Fastmail customer, just curious.

This [1] Neat fact, Google is yet to tell me they are making this change to my account. [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/google-tells-free-g-...

Wait what? This is the first I've heard of it. Bad timing.
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