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Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

American Medical Association (and other medical/pharma/health workers associations) > IBM

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Article is paywalled, but this story has evolved over the last few weeks:

- 2022-01-05: "Scoop: IBM tries to sell Watson Health again" https://www.axios.com/ibm-tries-to-sell-watson-health-again-...

- 2022-01-07: "IBM reportedly shopping Watson Health just as healthcare gets hot" https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/07/ibm-reportedly-shopping-wa...

A lot of the hope seemed to be in document summarization from the latest medical literature, plus integrating patient data from electronic medical records.

The autopsy of this could be interesting. Some of the critiques against using electronic health records previously was that many of them were designed for medical billing (I don't have a good link, but Eric Topol's "Deep Medicine" has some notes on this problem https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/eric-topol-md/deep-medicin...).

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

> bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things

My impression is that accompanying a patient is super important, it helps to understand illness, to have a plan in case of more complex treatments, etc.

Then my doctor has the ability to know me and gauge my health. She's also very good at probabilities and detecting when something really goes wrong.

I'm sure that being able to do that require a lot more than numbers.

(I'm studying data sciences, I trust them, but my guts tell me that diagnosis is in a whole different ballpark)

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

I assume that you're from the US?

Those are both people problems. Tech can't solve many people problems, especially something as entrenched as healthcare. Isn't it huge, something like 10% of the US economy?

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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There should be a way to bet (short) against “projects” or products, not the whole company. When they hyped about Watson Health, I “knew” it will fail.

Sometimes companies use their failed or loss making products to help promote their successful products. YouTube is a prime example

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

>that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant

It is happening. They are called physician assistants and nurse practitioners, "supervised" by a doctor. I assume going forward, they will take more and more of the usual pink eye/ear infection/flu and other common work that does not require 6 to 8 years of post bachelor education.

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

> But GPs often make astounding amounts of money while leaning heavily on their staff to actually handle patients and keep the business running.

The private ones might the ones in the public system at least in my country need to see a patient every 10 minutes to keep their heads above water.

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