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On Leaving Facebook

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Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Facebook and other companies banned Dynamic Programming.

Is this a recent thing? I still got them two years ago.

No idea. That's what I heard from a eng manager at FAANG 2 months ago. He said "We don't ask DP questions, they don't resemble problems that you are expected to do while working. You can still some of the problems using DP, but we don't ask pure DP problems."

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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As a successful developer well past middle age, I find this to be nonsense. The most common complaint I hear around this is "yeah, that discriminates against people who don't have time to grind to do the preparation." Why is it weird that people should spend time preparing for ask for a new job? I mean, ask an orchestra musician how much time they put into preparing for auditions, or how much time many degreed profes…

> Why is it weird that people should spend time preparing for ask for a new job? I mean, ask an orchestra musician how much time they put into preparing for auditions, or how much time many degreed professionals put into passing a certification (e.g. the bar exam or medical boards). It's weird because the preparation is often the thing we're not doing in our day to day. I'd also go as far as saying if you need to cra…

> I'd also go as far as saying if you need to cram crazy hours shortly beforehand to pass any exam or test then you're not really qualified to pass.

I've had a professor who said that the purpose of an exam is to study for it.

The same professor said that if you don't learn something in an exam, then the exam is useless.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Guy works at Facecrook for a decade and all he can muster is a selfish article about compensation and his precious "work life balance". Couldn't even say a few words about the ethical ramifications of this "contributions" to society by working there. No soul, no mindfulness, just pure ego.

I get this all the time. I can only ever dream of joining Facebook, Google, or Microsoft, ethics aside, but because I’m an immigrant from a no-name university, nobody gives a fuck about us of course.

Americans be like: “man, this 400k USD job is so boring, I need better work-life balance”

Meanwhile Europeans have to make do with 60k EUR jobs with zero work-life balance but hey, at least we have free healthcare, right?

Free healthcare that costs us half our salary. Cool.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Glad to see this was about working at FB / Meta rather than being a user. Just for personal interest. Newish dev doing my first attempt at a FAANG interview. Wondering if I should be trying for FaceBook as long as Im bothering to study. Had a very positive-feeling convo with a recruiter there ~6mo ago before "Meta". Sounds like it might be a negative thing to have on your resume now though? Any thoughts?

No, it looks good on your resume. The type of clown who would get upset at you working for Facebook is not someone you want to work for anyway so consider that another plus. Some people get extremely sanctimonious about the latest thing their politics or corporate "news" media or the current popular trend on twitter gets them riled up about. Of course they will never face up to the fact that the companies they work f…

The clowns you are referring to are people with brains that look at more than just leetcode problems.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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I was expecting at the very least a little bit of self-introspection about the ethical problems of working for a company like FB and how that may have participated in the decision. Nope, article is 100% about author's own well-being and happiness.

Exactly the point in my strident post below, that now has a negative value unsurprisingly given the content of many of the replies here. Is it unfairly rude to challenge the ethics of what people choose to do? Is the world not shaped by what we do or even somewhat by our mere participation with what others do? Nothing will get better, and perhaps even worse, if all we care about is our own personal gain.

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> At Facebook I could get by barely working a few hours a day. But the job was so unsatisfying This is a little too first world. if the work were too sparse and wants more work, why not join interview loops or take classes/training, attend talks? Does Meta not have those options? The frustration feels almost artificial, if one does not want to get more work, then maybe just go boating or mountain biking. Watch some s…

It doesn't work like that. You have to be "on" even if you aren't working. That means you feel like you can't commit to anything substantial since you feel like you should be working. Fucking off on the internet is a coping mechanism to numb the pain of being in this limbo where you aren't working; but, feel like you should be working because you are getting paid a lot. In retrospect it's easy to see that there's thi…

terrible time. you feel like losing the game, falling behind from all new cool-aid drinks. You feel like your friends and colleagues are working on something cool, and then suddenly re-org happens and you wonder is your career on right track ?

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A musician put it in time for an audition because that will be the piece he will be performing. But doing leetcode when the job definition is: You will be working on this e-commerce site is not the most motivating things. While algorithms and data structure knowledge are important, most of the time is spent writing code gluing data sources to interfaces. I'm perfectly fine doing an interview on the technologies I'm e…

> most of the time is spent writing code gluing data sources to interfaces Pretty much anyone can do that. We’re looking for someone who can do the other 20% of the job that’s novel and difficult. Ideally someone who recognizes that rereading glue code is a waste of human effort, and automates it away instead.

Leetcode doesn’t actually test for that 20%.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Can you please name your company? I haven't worked at FAANG but I most definitely would not want to work for a company like yours.

Not going to dox myself. > I haven't worked at FAANG I doubt that. > but I most definitely would not want to work for a company like yours. You do you. But I make sure we pay way above average, I want the best people and the best people don’t work for Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Google.

You’re a person of great conviction and superior morality — who dares not name the company and reveal their identity. I’m amused.

“ I want the best people and the best people don’t work for Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Google.”

Tell me when you hire a Yann LeCun or Jitendra Malik. Your claim is random shit-talk that’s not verifiable.

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CTO and lead engineer of what size companies? How big was the tree of reports under you? What is the band of your total compensation recently? $100-200k? $500-1000k? Honestly sounds like a bit of cope, especially if you've tried hiring in the past 10 years.

I’m not going to dox myself so you’re going to get some fuzz. Largest? 400-1500. Smallest? 30-70. Compensation was highly variable. FAANG employees are liabilities best avoided, everyone in leadership positions knows it.

“ FAANG employees are liabilities best avoided, everyone in leadership positions knows it.”

I literally know a couple of unicorn founders in my personal life. They don’t think that. You’re full of shit and are probably a shit leader (if you’re not bluffing) if you make categorically false statements with such conviction (much like the former president).

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I’ve written all of my companies guidelines. I explicitly codify that the hiring of former surveillance capitalism mercenaries is a fireable offense. “But the equity was great” is not an excuse.

Not sure if you're making things up, but I really like your attitude. The world only moves forward because of people with principles, not because of people who make 'tough compromises'

Racists have racist principles that they hold with great conviction, doesn’t make them right. You have to stop and ask - is this principle correct.
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