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Re: On Leaving Facebook

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It's on his personal blog. Who are you to police what he writes about there? Blame the person who submitted it to HN, or the 25 people who upvoted it to the home page. Or, you know, just shut up and get over it.

Plot twist: it was the Zucc

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Asking them to code is indeed a great filter. But is Dynamic Programming question necessary to perform the filter?

Facebook and other companies banned Dynamic Programming.

Is this a recent thing? I still got them two years ago.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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I have 38 years in hardware design, most of that doing ASIC design in Verilog. I've been with my currently employer 19 years, but if I found myself in an interview I'd expect them to ask me technical questions. If they didn't ask them, it would be a red flag. What if they asked me an "offensively" basic question? Great, I can make quick work of it, no insult taken. It has happened to me only once that I interviewed s…

'Asking technical questions' is quite a bit different than shoving a code editor in front of a candidate's face, and the interviewer all but saying "The computer will decide your fate."

Asking an ASIC designer to create a 2-input XOR gate out of 2-input NAND gates is like asking a programmer to write a bubble sort. If someone asked me either one, despite being 38 years out of college, I'd do it without being offended.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Is this the point in your career when you have so much money that you don't actually need a job?

Finance jobs pay just as much as, or more, than FAANG and to my knowledge don't do any leetcode.

What finance jobs? The only companies in software engineering paying more than FAANG are trading companies like Jane Street. And AFAIK they have harder interview loops than Google.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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I didn't say or even imply that and it's unfair to interpret it that way. Distract yourself in a positive manner. Don't dwell on meaningless thoughts that you'll never defeat. Only way to win is to do something else with your time. It's fine if you don't think that's the solution but straight up misrepresenting what has been said to you is not cool.

I think the point is that this negative pitfall happens to people and multiple people concur. It's easy to say "fight this with positivity", most people on HN started with this philosophy. In practice, it's hard to do that consistently after the first 10 years, especially when you don't notice the slide until you're in a pit.

Hm, didn't occur to me to look at it that way so you're likely correct.

I am personally 41 and I've fought tooth and nail to not just sit at the computer for the sake of it, neither in an office nor at home. Nowadays when I sit at my desk, I have goals in mind and if I catch myself not working towards any of them in an hour, I just get up and go do something else and someplace else.

But I maintain that nowhere did I imply something as dismissive and shallow as "just don't be sad" or, not shallow but still far from what I meant, "fight this with positivity". It's not that at all, it was much more along the lines of: "find your own purpose and don't wait for others to impose theirs on you".

In my current job I am one of 3 recent hires (just recently hit the 4 months mark) and since we come from very different backgrounds compared to the company's culture, we often have 5 PRs just waiting on reviews and we find ourselves completely blocked on any further progress (can't even open other PRs since we still haven't received feedback on the current ones and that would severely change what code we should put in the new ones).

I have raised the problem multiple times, from squad leaders all the way to the CEO, but it seems that the people are cool with it and don't mind if you just twiddle your thumbs every now and then. So I started picking up more and more sysadmin skills which I need for my home NAS management and potentially other home servers in the future. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But maybe my comment up-thread was way too short and open for negative interpretation?

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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The author leaves so clearly work at FB sucks, yet he spends most of the article praising the company. There are leadership changes, reorgs and direction churn yet it is somehow very easy to follow the career ladder by "just executing the plan". People leave being burnt out and yet he somehow managed to only work "few hours" per day.

A person that dedicates time to learning how to be efficient at their job can in some roles achieve more in less time.

I find it hard to believe. Learning also takes time and in software development you need to learn constantly. You can optimize some type of work, maybe you can code faster, but others are fast too! Remember, everyone around you passed the LeetCode test. How would you optimize meetings, communication with the team, reading/reviewing other peoples code?

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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...And the problem is, what exactly?

Lack of self discipline. If you’re going to wfh you have to be disciplined enough to work during work hours and not work during non work hours.

Well, it pays off to be aware of the issue at least, right?

I too have grappled with this for a while but I believe this struggle was for the better and it eventually led to reduced stress. Nowadays when I mentally proclaim "I am done for the day!" I know that I did my best and that I have put enough hours / effort to not feel guilty about not putting more.

So yeah, you are right. I just think people should go through this fight for discipline because it's ultimately better for their mental health when they learn to put boundaries.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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Super successful people at Facebook need Facebook "prestige" to get... car loans? Huh. And you can get that prestige and success working a couple of hours a day. Huh. What a weird world.

The car loan line was a little odd. Anyone with a decent income and a high credit score can easily get a car loan.

Re: On Leaving Facebook

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> If you're going to judge people for working at faang, you better never shop at Walmart or Amazon I do my best, but I fully admit I am not perfect in this regard. > allowing for atrocities like DuPont, never buy anything with Teflon in it, I completely agree with you here. The leadership of these corps should have faced serious jail time for C8 contamination. > We're all in the same exploitative evil system, get off…

From my perspective, your money came from the same system, and you're acting on blanket baseless prejudice.

Yep

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28831227

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