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Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#71

Congratulations! You've not yet been duped into the assumption that you have work 8 hours a day for a paycheck to live. Go find something to do that you find meaningful. It may not be in computers. Maybe you'll enjoy making art, crafts, music. Maybe you'll enjoy helping people directly, like teaching or social work. Maybe you'll work with nature. Maybe you'll develop a new beer brand. You will be working harder and s…

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#73
I wouldn't say that you have depression. You just opened your eyes to how pointless modern corporate jobs are. There is actually extensive literature to this phenomenon, I can really encourage you to read "Bullshit jobs" by David Graeber. The book tries to explain how the pseudo-feudal, futile and boring corporate Western world came to be.

I personally try to distance my self-image from my job, I see it as a way to pay my bills and save up some money, but I try so that it does not define me, and I definitely do not try to build up friendships there, I guess I have enough friends everywhere else to have the need to socialize with people I barely share things in common.

Moreover, there are so many people destroying themselves mentally and physically with over-work because they believe that they have to love work (as they would a hobby or something similar), but I think that does not have to be the case, I actually believe that there are a lot of activities that CANNOT be monetize which are also quite enjoyable, around which I can center my life, e. g. playing tennis, drawing, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I actually love to code. I love my side projects. I hate to be told what and how to code at "normal" work.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#76
post #54

Don’t agree with most of these comments. Not wanting to work at a company that makes some uninteresting business product just a little more profitable does not mean that you are depressed. Working at a place like that can certainly make you depressed though! To the OP, I think you have a few options. On one hand you can keep taking short jobs / consulting or try to build some sort of simple SaaS business that you can…

Basing your happiness from your work life is a recipe for unhappiness. You will always find something to nitpick about

Agree. Find hobbies, social circles outside of work etc. Work is just so that you can afford to live. I don't think having a "boring" work is a problem, as long as the work I do is ethical I don't care that much what I do for living.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#77
I worked pointless jobs doing mind numbing work so I’d have the experience to be interesting when a worthwhile job came along.

I now build comment sections for news sites that help improve conversation and foster positive community. We’re open source and we share our learnings with the world.

The pay is great and the culture is chill and supportive.

You often have to do the crap work to get to the good work. Life is like that, to get the gold inside the temple, you have to wade through the swamp.

That being said, I had my doubts all along the way. At one point I considered just joining the army because “what is even the point?” I felt very disillusioned.

I stuck with it and a decade later I’m here doing good work that I care about.

This is why you hear so much about discipline, commitment, and drive in all the motivation speeches. Persistence is almost everything.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#78
There is a book of philosophy called Ecclesiastes [1] from the Judeo-Christian writings. It's a reflection on the question 'What profits have a man for all his toil, in which he toils under the sun?' and some suggestions on how to find contentment with your life despite that. I think you'll find some camaraderie with the author based on your post. Written sometime between 450-200 BCE, it has nothing to do with computers, but a lot to do with your question.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastes

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#79
post #8

Yes, it is you (and few others). What you are experiencing is best described as depression. Been in a similar situation as you once. Of course the most important step is acknowledging that you need help otherwise that feeling will persist. Sometimes the source of the depression has not so much to do with your work life but has deeper roots.

For example one of those deeper roots might be that most prestigious well-compensated jobs actually don't have value to anyone except the owners of capital who will become richer from the work we do! Seriously I had more positive impact on more people's lives as a poverty wages barista than I do as a six figures software dev. That is depressing.

if _only_ i were being exploited to make someone else money, but still provide some value to someone. its entirely likely that you're window dressing in a potemkin company designed soley to attract investment.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or do 99% of SWE jobs offers seem completely pointless?

#80
A meaningful job is only a part of building a meaningful life. The questions your asking may be a sign your placing too much existential weight on a job instead of actively working to have a meaningful life in every aspect.

Are you actively building meaningful relationships, maintaining the old ones and seeking out new ones? Are you involved in communities around shared values? Do you invest in personal goals outside your career (hobbies, music, art, etc)? Are you challenging yourself physically in some sport or activity your passionate about?

Work is a big part of the picture, but if you are focused on growing intellectually, socially, spiritually, and physically (whatever those may look like to you) a job takes a much smaller role.

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