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Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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They are expecting a spike in infections as a result, and the rules around self-isolation on positive tests and wearing masks in most contexts remain. But Ireland has had one of the longest lockdowns in Europe, and one of the best vaccination rates. Both have paid off, but not without cost.

"They are expecting a spike in infections as a result"

Can you show where they said this? This is what will happen but I haven't heard it be stated as a official strategy.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Strange timing, with Omicron going through the population like wildfire. Maybe they are accepting they can’t fight Omicron? In any case, this experiment will inform other countries on how to proceed further. I sincerely hope the results will be good, both for Ireland and the rest of the world. If you want to follow the Covid data for Ireland, here’s the official site: https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

> Strange timing, with Omicron going through the population like wildfire. Maybe they are accepting they can’t fight Omicron?

It's having very little impact on our hospitalization rates, despite massive jumps in overall case numbers. The main aim of the restrictions was to prevent the health service from becoming overrun (especially over christmas when they were already strained), and it's been deemed no longer necessary.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

I had to deal with a family member not being able to get a place in the hospital this week, even though they would have otherwise(covid unrelated) - taking care of them at home is nearly impossible.

No one cares until it affects them.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish that people who say things like "learn to live with it" actually meant it. We do indeed need to learn from the past two years, and that will result in something quite different from pretending that we're still in 2019.

I'm quite sure it will be much more like 2019 than you think. People will learn to live with the deaths if it continues as it was in 2020/21. Prolong the lock downs more and most of the population will go crazy.

I'd argue a lot of people have already gone crazy and will do anything to avoid going back to normal and letting people live their lives. The obsession with the need for a "new normal" amongst some is really terrifying. There needs to be some targeted campaign to "deprogram" the people that have become obsessed with covid and make them move on. I'm serious about this, if we just pretend it will get better on it's own, there will continue to be these lingering theatrics - I don't want to see the world end up like air travel did.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol find me one place in the United States where there are “lockdowns”.

Why do you mention the US when the article is about Ireland?

“Great! Other countries need to follow suit.” Reading 101.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #26

At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Yes, we've wasted two years of everybody's life. Let's not waste any more.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #32
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Great! Other countries need to follow suit. We have to learn to live with this disease, like the gazillion others.

Just like we learned to live with polio and smallpox?

Polio and smallpox vaccines were non leaky. That's why we were able to eradicate it. COVID can't be eradicated until a non-leaky vaccine is developed. Google "leaky vaccines" if you don't know what they are.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #26

At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Pandemic fatigue + a very contagious variant that is less virulent. A lower rate of people are getting hospitalized (and often require a lower level of care), but the massive number of people getting infected is still driving high hospital utilization.

Omicron is being called 'mild', but it's not mild for a lot of people in absolute terms (even though it may be milder compared to what earlier variants might have been for that individual).

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #26

At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Because now there are no restrictions to speak of left and it can't go much worse. No ground for apocalyptic scenarios anymore.

Also, it's entirely up to people themselves if they want to be protected or not: Omicron is so transmissive, it doesn't matter for transmission if people are vaccinated or not - whatever impact it has on transmission is of little consequence - everyone is going to get infected, anyway (maybe a few weeks later but it doesn't matter at all).

On the other hand, vaccines are universally available, and free, for a very long time now.

Together it means that if you are unvaccinated, it's on one hand, only your own fault, and on the other hand, only your problem - effectively you no longer endanger anyone but yourself by staying unvaccinated (big difference from what it was a year ago).

Which means, there is no point for anyone but unvaccinated themselves suffering. If you got the vaccine, Omicron is about as dangerous as flu, and no one closes economy because of flu.

Almost all unvaccinated are Republicans and Democratic administration is in power...

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