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Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Post by schwartzworld »

mwattsun wrote: post #540
uejfiweun wrote: post #535

I have smoked for a number of years now, and I have continually been narrowing down on the best way to smoke (at least for me). I have noticed that actually SMOKING weed makes me really stupid. Very similar to what is described in the article. My thought processes slow down, my focus decreases, and I am unable to be "normal" for the rest of the day (and possibly even the next day). What I have found is that vaping th…

I live in California where it's legal so I can sample the various wares to see what works best. The dab pen's are cheap but much too harsh. Edibles take too long to come on and it's hard to get the dose right. I've gone back to smoking bud, because it works and doesn't feel harmful like vaping oil. I don't smoke everyday. I use it maybe once or twice a week when I get stuck on a problem, like finding myself getting o…

Check out the dynavap. I've never seen a battery powered vape come close.

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Post by shlant »

UncleMeat wrote: post #379
cthalupa wrote: post #180

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People are skeptical on any side about purely anecdotal experiences. I've posted pro-marijuana anecdotal experiences in here, but I don't expect people to take it as gospel, and frequently specifically call it out as a personal anecdote. In the past, have seen the exact sort of response your replying to directed towards me. And that's fine, because anecdotes aren't data! But it's just hard to separate correlation fro…

We don't tend to see the same skepticism for the positive anecdotes in online discussion of cannabis, though.

I've had the same reaction from sharing a story about bad experiences with mushrooms. It wasn't in the context of evidence either, but still got people saying it sounded like anti-drug propaganda.

I think it's just the result of a cultural perception shift swinging hard the other way from the decades that drugs were demonized to now people looking at many drugs (mdma, marijuana and psilocybin especially) as miraculous substances that will solve all our issues. This happens with most shifts - it starts on one end of the extreme, then gets a reaction which swings the pendulum to the other extreme. In a decade I'm sure it will even out and we can have open conversations without reactions being so dogmatic.

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Post by irrational »

sizzle wrote: post #534
irrational wrote: post #470

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Music being key is what kills it for me. Music does absolutely nothing for me. High or not. I have no emotional response to any music.

What about a good scene in a movie that speaks to you personally, I had a friend who had a go to movie that left him sobbing that he would watch to remind him he’s human, because he didn’t react to music and was pretty muted emotionally in general. I thought that was a cool trick for him.

Not really. Really no. My wife will be crying during parts of movies and looks over and ask me why I am not crying. She doesn't like my usual response, "This is a movie. None of this is real. They are actors." Also, I don't like watching movies more than once (too much to do, too much to see, too much to read in our short lifetimes to do any of it more than once).

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Post by post-it »

misja111 wrote: post #183
iRobbery wrote: post #160

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I stopped cold turkey smoking weed daily after 25 years, i can tell you from personal experience this does not apply to everybody. It also seems rather strange to take one property of their lives and use it to explain their in your eyes loss of abilities. Not doing something for a long time also has this effect, so perhaps they for many years didnt need to do calculations in their head, or use their high school frenc…

Ok, let me give you some more details. The first guy I knew was a friend when I was studying. He studied Electrotechnical engineering at university level, a highly mathematical study and when he started he was quite good with it. However at the same time when he started the study he also started using Cannabis a lot more, up to the point that he was smoking all day long. I used to play games with him like poker and b…

> I tried to explain him some things about the game that involved some very basic probability calculations but he stopped me and told that he had been smoking weed for 20 years and had lost capability to do calculations in his head.

Maybe he just wanted you to leave him alone.

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Post by WaxedChewbacca »

kunai wrote: post #135
WaxedChewbacca wrote: post #16

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I wouldn't assume that it did. I would focus on its remaining extreme plasticity. It seems likely that you could do an enormous amount of self-cultivation via practices like meditation.

Cannabis absolutely affects brain development if you use it consistently throughout adolescence. Don't get me wrong, I still favor legalization and decriminalization, but the number of people who like to pretend like it's some super happy wonder drug with no downsides whatsoever bother me. Like any drug, there are side effects, and this is one of them.

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Post by otherme123 »

bjourne wrote: post #403
otherme123 wrote: post #181

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A lot of drugs make you more social, but sadly they are all outlawed except alcohol. MDMA was used for years to lubricate psicotherapy sessions, until the FDA found out that some people was having "too much fun", banned the thing, and denied it has any possible positive effect. Only two years ago it seems that it is going to be reseached again. Thomas Szasz has some books about drug history and the paths that turns a…

How can otherwise intelligent people believe drugs are outlawed because people were having too much fun?

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Post by iLoveOncall »

throw1away8436 wrote: post #272

I see a lot of people defending cannabis and I hate to be that guy but: be freaking cautious with cannabis. Yes it cannot make you an addict, yes it can help you to have a good time with people. But it can also fuck you up. I have PTSD since 2018 because of an accidental over dosing of cannabis oil. Weed is really high on THC nowadays, which can easily make you panic or make you paranioac. As for most people it's bou…

> Yes it cannot make you an addict

On behalf of all my friends that are 100% addicted to cannabis, I disagree.

It's not a physical addiction, but you can totally be mentally addicted to cannabis.

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Post by t-3 »

geocrasher wrote: post #545
t-3 wrote: post #365

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Your subjective experience as a caffeine addict is not really applicable. Caffeine definitely impairs me. I can't sleep, can't sit still, can't poop, can't focus on anything. Weed, on the other hand, keeps my thoughts focused and doesn't interfere with sleeping or bowel movements. See? Our personal experience is irrelevant to the discussion.

Nope. Not a caffeine addict. My wife once challenged me to go without caffeine for 30 days. No problem. Not even a headache.

You are not using the same meaning of "addiction". I'm most definitely an addict, of various substances. Can easily put them down for months or years, that's not proof that I'm not an addict. The addiction is the part where I keep coming back even though I can quit.

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Post by dr_dshiv »

gigaflop wrote: post #538
OJFord wrote: post #437

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Just curious, have you tried doing everything except smoking? Or maybe a conventional cigarette/something else you like. I just wonder when you have so much other 'theatre' (I don't say that putting it down) around it, how much can actually be ascribed to the cannabis. Also, just listened to a few tracks from that, wow no way I could get anything done, I'd just drift off to sleep! (I've never used cannabis, but I ima…

Not parent, but if I could alter my state to be like-high without smoking weed, via sheer mental willpower or focus, I'd have probably started a cult by now. If it was a teachable practice, I'm sure I'd have plenty of followers to boot.

No one starts cults any more. The lack of drug cults is proof! I'd love to go to some chill temple environment on the weekends and connect to ultimate reality.

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Post by ganzuul »

to1y wrote: post #463
ganzuul wrote: post #402

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Many people, especially the young, can not find a peaceful time or place for meditation. The demands placed on them by western society take up too much of their energy. For them, drugs are a must because otherwise they will grow up without any spiritual life at all.

Meditation/self-reflection will take less of your time than drugs. Much less. Plus most "spiritual growth" stemming from drugs is all an illusion.

Them, not me. I gladly meditate about 2 hours per day since I have the peace, the time and the place to do so. But it took me many years to get all three of these ingredients for my spiritual fire.
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