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Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#51
Ah well.

I'll always associate him with The Great Bell Chant (The End Of Suffering) https://youtu.be/F1ZwaEzMtJw

Some of the words from him:

May the Sound of this Bell

Penetrate deep into the Cosmos

Even in the darkest spots

Living Beings are able to hear it clearly

So that all suffering in them cease

Understanding come to their hearts

And they transcend the path

Of Sorrow and Death

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#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know of anyway to find more of those? I'm in Oakland and that sounds delightful.

Why can't you just do it?

I have done a number of solo retreats. Many solo 10-day retreats, and a month long retreat usually in my apartment or place that I was living at the time. I would speak to my teacher on the phone typically every other day, or everyday for 10-45mins depending on what was happening. I didn't immediately jump into the longer retreats. I built up to it. Initially doing 1 day solo retreats, then 3-days, then doing many 10-days then a month long.

So, why can't you just do it? A solo retreat is not for everyone. People often need help or support to meet them where they are. Different personalities have different needs. A retreat can also be quite destabilizing and having someone to help in person to navigate the emotional territory or insights is valuable. Now, let's say that you think you can do it. In my opinion, you absolutely need a teacher for a longer retreat but for a shorter retreat (1 day, or _maybe_ 3-day) it is not entirely necessary. You end being your own worst enemy on a retreat. A friend of mine was doing practice for 10-12 hours a day without a teacher for 6 weeks and only eating a little bit of bread everyday. This is a bad idea. The mind plays some amazing tricks on you. So, if a solo attempt is done please have a teacher and have a lot of vital context around what you are doing otherwise you will practice wrongly.

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#54
I haven't heard of him until today. I am very interested in learning meditation/mindfulness, but as an agnostic I tend to shy away from religious teachings. Are his methods heavily religious?

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#55

Wow. I used to go to the mindfulness retreats at his affiliated monastery in San Diego. You left your phone in your car, and had 3-5 days (or more sometimes) of meditation, fresh cooked meals, and nature. It was really peaceful, and so different from what I had expected (something like a cult, being plied for donations etc. there was none of that). I stopped going when I left California, but it's hard to feel much mo…

Do you know of anyway to find more of those? I'm in Oakland and that sounds delightful.

IRC is excellent, and located around the Bay Area (there are usually at least a few people carpooling down from Oakland) - https://www.insightretreatcenter.org

It's the retreat side of IMC (https://www.insightmeditationcenter.org). You might listen to some of their talks or read some of Gil's writing[1] to see if it's what you are looking for. It's in the Vipassana tradition, though a number of the teachers had affiliation with the SF Zen Center.

[1] https://www.insightmeditationcenter.org/books-articles/natur... is a potentially interesting article

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#56
What is it with HN and assuming everyone else knows what or who you're talking about. I mean look at all these people: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+...

I recognise one name in that list. At least tell us who these people are when writing your titles.

For anyone else clueless, I googled... a better title would be "Thich Nhat Hanh, Vietnamese-French Buddhist monk, has died"

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#57
post #42

Thich Nhat Hanh taught that just like a cloud seems to disappear from the sky, it's not really, it has simply changed form. The appearance of vanishing is just that: an appearance. Really nothing is created or destroyed. In this way, there is no loss here, Thầy has transitioned into another phase of life. A beauty worth celebrating

Surely it's lost to the sky, having fallen to the earth as rain?

This is like one of those things people overlay on an image of a flower or a cloudy sky and then post to facebook.

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#58
post #54

I haven't heard of him until today. I am very interested in learning meditation/mindfulness, but as an agnostic I tend to shy away from religious teachings. Are his methods heavily religious?

I think most Buddhist traditions are “non theistic.” This is different from atheism and theism, in that it essentially says “Even if God exists, God is mostly if not completely beside the point. The point is relying on yourself to save yourself.”

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#59
post #42

Thich Nhat Hanh taught that just like a cloud seems to disappear from the sky, it's not really, it has simply changed form. The appearance of vanishing is just that: an appearance. Really nothing is created or destroyed. In this way, there is no loss here, Thầy has transitioned into another phase of life. A beauty worth celebrating

That makes me wonder if Zen Buddhism includes an acknowledgement, either explicit or implicit, of entropy.

Re: Thich Nhat Hanh has died

#60
post #42

Thich Nhat Hanh taught that just like a cloud seems to disappear from the sky, it's not really, it has simply changed form. The appearance of vanishing is just that: an appearance. Really nothing is created or destroyed. In this way, there is no loss here, Thầy has transitioned into another phase of life. A beauty worth celebrating

Surely it's lost to the sky, having fallen to the earth as rain? This is like one of those things people overlay on an image of a flower or a cloudy sky and then post to facebook.

Buddhism is about recognizing that everything is one, i.e. there's no sky/earth, but just sky-earth as one thing altogether.

Of course you don't have to believe it or find it useful, I'm just explaining Buddhist thought in general and Thich Nhat Hanh's thoughts in particular here.

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