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The tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by Black Sparrow Press (2013)

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Re: The tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by Black Sparrow Press (2013)

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Post by tomjakubowski »

dokem wrote: post #61
g5095 wrote: post #8

I'm hardly a SJW but it's 2022, can we stop equating rape which is a shockingly violent violation/assult of a real a human being with anything less. I'm sure I'm gonna get slammed for this but whatever.

You're free to use, or not use, what ever words you like. Also, why is rape such a bad word but not murder or torture or suicide?

There are billions of survivors of rape living and trying to cope, and it is wrong to trivialize their experience by comparing it to a misguided editor trying to make some bad poetry better.

Murder and torture and suicide occur at nowhere near the same scale, and in two of those the primary victims are not around to suffer poor choice of words. For what it's worth, I also wish we didn't speak so trivially of "killing" e.g. UNIX processes. "Rape" is an easy word to avoid.

Re: The tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by Black Sparrow Press (2013)

#84

Post by dokem »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #82
dokem wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're free to use, or not use, what ever words you like. Also, why is rape such a bad word but not murder or torture or suicide?

There are billions of survivors of rape living and trying to cope, and it is wrong to trivialize their experience by comparing it to a misguided editor trying to make some bad poetry better. Murder and torture and suicide occur at nowhere near the same scale, and in two of those the primary victims are not around to suffer poor choice of words. For what it's worth, I also wish we didn't speak so trivially of "killing…

Yes I agree it's a strong word with strong connotations. It's good to have such words and make a language strong and effective. You seem to be equating use of the word rape with the act of rape. Maybe we should also not use the word war, maybe we should not speak at all because someone is trying to cope with something. It shouldn't be used in a professional environment, but out in the world or on the internet who are you to play hall monitor?

Re: The tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by Black Sparrow Press (2013)

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dokem wrote: post #84
tomjakubowski wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are billions of survivors of rape living and trying to cope, and it is wrong to trivialize their experience by comparing it to a misguided editor trying to make some bad poetry better. Murder and torture and suicide occur at nowhere near the same scale, and in two of those the primary victims are not around to suffer poor choice of words. For what it's worth, I also wish we didn't speak so trivially of "killing…

Yes I agree it's a strong word with strong connotations. It's good to have such words and make a language strong and effective. You seem to be equating use of the word rape with the act of rape. Maybe we should also not use the word war, maybe we should not speak at all because someone is trying to cope with something. It shouldn't be used in a professional environment, but out in the world or on the internet who are…

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Re: The tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by Black Sparrow Press (2013)

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Post by dentemple »

kentrado wrote: post #86
worik wrote: post #85

Do not use the term rape for anything but serious sexual assault. Deeply offensive.

That's subjective. The meaning of words depends heavily in the context they are used.

And we're even talking about poetry! A subject that's famously all about playing with the meanings of words.
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