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A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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I'd definitely want immortality in the sense of stopping physical (and mental) deterioration. You can always just commit suicide if you're done. I discuss this with friends and family occasionally, and they all seem to have these ideas that we're "only supposed to live 100 years or so". But that seems like a logical fallacy (appeal to nature) to me, it's not an actual argument. And sure, there are plenty of dystopian…

I, too, would rather not die. But "the only real problem" you see being overpopulation speaks to a limited effort in thinking out the consequences. Let's imagine such a solution was available. Let's remember that insulin today is barely affordable to most people, a mere "stay alive and subsist" drug. So it's probably safe to assume that a literal immortality treatment would be only available to the most wealthy and p…

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Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Researching immortality or unnatural longevity isn't worth the investment for a society because a society of immortals becomes either stagnant or unsustainable. But making individual billionaires immortal is something billionaires might find worth investing in.

> a society of immortals becomes either stagnant or unsustainable Which society of immortals are you referring to?

Tolkein's Elves :)?

More seriously, it's a common theory that age-related diseases are an evolved adaptation because over time a species must form an equilibrium with its resource base.

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Any thoughts on how these efforts could conflict with our climate goals? Should we have an age ceiling? (that sounds awful, but so does the idea of everyone living to 150)

There will be a bump as people live longer, but, assuming fertility is extended by similar amounts of time, it will just lead to people delaying having kids until they're pushing 80 or so.

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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There have been several companies formed in the past few years whose premise is researching in industry anti-aging or basic science more generally (Calico, Altos Labs, Arcadia, etc.)... Does anyone understand the underlying economics or motivations? They can't be gambles when they raise $B's, and I'm too cynical to believe these are altruistic endeavors. Certainly there is research that cannot be reasonably expected…

Does anyone understand the underlying economics or motivations? How much would you pay for a treatment to prevent or repair the negative effects of aging? For me the answer is "well over 100% of my net worth".

I could imagine living as a subscription model...

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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There have been several companies formed in the past few years whose premise is researching in industry anti-aging or basic science more generally (Calico, Altos Labs, Arcadia, etc.)... Does anyone understand the underlying economics or motivations? They can't be gambles when they raise $B's, and I'm too cynical to believe these are altruistic endeavors. Certainly there is research that cannot be reasonably expected…

Does anyone understand the underlying economics or motivations? How much would you pay for a treatment to prevent or repair the negative effects of aging? For me the answer is "well over 100% of my net worth".

Yeah but I'm guessing you wouldn't be willing to pay them that now.

Their point was the high risk versus the high reward. Even if investors gave such money to thousands of longevity startups, would they produce something that makes all the investing pay off better than what they sunk into them? (without pivoting to something other than longevity).

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Bee pollen must be checked as anti aging agent. It not one miracle cure but thing of big puzzle. So i guess flower pollen collected by bee - must prolong 30-40 additional years at once. +Melatonin + NAC+ vitamin C + resveratrol + all bags of vitamin and mineral essentional to human being.

Also daily yougurt dose must saving life like not one product before.

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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There's the problem of the elderly continuing to accumulate wealth and power without ceding any to the younger generations. It's already happening. Look no further than the geriatric US lawmakers and how out of touch they are with the future.

Create a startup and disrupt them with a new technology.

Disrupt the US government or wealth inequality?

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So how can I, as a software developer, meaningfully contribute to this area? I would very much prefer to live forever.

You could gain computational biology experience from working at biotech until you have enough to work at one of these longevity startups.

This is exactly what I'm doing - working at a bioinformatics startup as a SDE, and slowly picking up comp bio projects.

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Does anyone understand the underlying economics or motivations? How much would you pay for a treatment to prevent or repair the negative effects of aging? For me the answer is "well over 100% of my net worth".

I could imagine living as a subscription model...

Maybe with an implanted chip that kills you if you didn’t manage to acquire the necessary time currency to live another minute.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time

Re: A $3B bet on finding the fountain of youth

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Any thoughts on how these efforts could conflict with our climate goals? Should we have an age ceiling? (that sounds awful, but so does the idea of everyone living to 150)

People would have a harder time pushing off climate problems because they themselves have to face the consequences, not their children.

I think a society that lives hundreds of years will have better future foresight. Similar to how when you get older 5 or 10 years doesn't seem nearly as long and you make many more decisions at these scales regularly.

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