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Cannabis use produces persistent cognitive impairments: meta review

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Post by picklesman »

aradox66 wrote: post #491
picklesman wrote: post #460

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I recently started infusing my own oils to then use sublingually for similar reasons and it's been a revelation! You can know pretty much exactly how much THC you're getting and adjust / repeat as necessary. I haven't smoked in years but I've been vaping (with a Pax) for the past couple of years and attempted to "microdose" but it was very unpredictable and sometimes I would get higher than I wanted which is not good…

Love this. As an aside, espresso + a whole bunch of sencha = calm + still able to fall asleep ==/==> "sensitive to caffeine", at least to my eyes!

Hah fair enough. Whole bunch is usually is 2 pots of 4 grams, 3 infusions each. But some people (like my wife) can guzzle filter coffee (much more total caffeine than my single shot) all day and have no trouble getting to sleep. Which makes me jealous. It’s all relative I guess

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Post by olivermarks »

sneak wrote: post #228
bigbluedots wrote: post #129

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Sure, if it doesn't affect anyone else. Sadly that's not always the case, e.g. if you are prone to psychotic episodes from consuming said thing or just having society paying for your cancer treatment later on

Taking drugs doesn't affect anyone else. Having psychotic episodes doesn't affect anyone else. Doing already-illegal things that violate the rights of others during psychotic episodes, that affects other people. Taking drugs doesn't affect anyone else. Getting cancer doesn't affect anyone else. Receiving cancer treatment doesn't affect anyone else. Using public funds to pay for that cancer treatment, that affects oth…

I wrote the parent comment and mostly agree with you about personal choice @sneak, except 'Taking drugs doesn't affect anyone else'. Whether alcohol, weed, opiates or whatever substance abuse is hugely costly and damaging in modern society to those who don't have this disease. There is a strong argument for pre existing substance dependency condition in people but the toll on those around them is huge.

You are smudging cancer and substance abuse together but in many cases complete abstinence in an individual due to awareness of a pre existing familial susceptibility can help that person to never become addicted because they are aware of the danger and biological weakness in themselves. 12 step programs etc can help people abstain if they become addicted although it is a huge and heroic struggle back to the surface.

Sadly this is not the case with cancer.

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Post by mdavis6890 »

Meaningless: "leads to acute cognitive impairments that may continue beyond the period of intoxication." - Wow, fascinating result right there. While intoxicated my cognition may be impaired. I had no idea. And those effects may (or may not) persist for some time after the intoxication fades. More research required. Amazing.

"Funding: None." - Well we got what we paid for!

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Post by aaomidi »

vintermann wrote: post #124
aaomidi wrote: post #52

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Appeal to nature is a logical fallacy. Also, from the things we surround ourselves with. It's probably the most natural.

"Appeal to nature" isn't a logical fallacy, it just assumes some things about how things should be. You might disagree with those assumptions, but you, too, have beliefs about how things should be.

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Post by bjourne »

tata71 wrote: post #457
bjourne wrote: post #403

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How can otherwise intelligent people believe drugs are outlawed because people were having too much fun?

Did you note that the GP wrote it in quotes?

Implying a direct quote, making the claim even more ludicrous.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

Ancapistani wrote: post #499
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #94

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> but what's actually been going on is that they were stopping treatment that was working Hard disagree. Cannabis isn’t actually an anti-depressant in the same way that alcohol and other euphoric drugs aren’t antidepressants. Chronic cannabis use has also been correlated with increased depression scores over time. But that’s beside the point: Cannabis withdrawal and rebound is a very real phenomenon. It’s another myt…

> Chronic cannabis use has also been correlated with increased depression scores over time. As someone diagnosed with depression long before ever partaking in cannabis, this doesn’t surprise me at all. People with depression seek relief, and cannabis can provide that to an extent.

Yes, it’s a common theme with any drug known to cause short-term euphoria: People will confuse the drug-induced euphoria for anti-depressant effect, but they’re very different.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

YuriNiyazov wrote: post #326
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #94

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> but what's actually been going on is that they were stopping treatment that was working Hard disagree. Cannabis isn’t actually an anti-depressant in the same way that alcohol and other euphoric drugs aren’t antidepressants. Chronic cannabis use has also been correlated with increased depression scores over time. But that’s beside the point: Cannabis withdrawal and rebound is a very real phenomenon. It’s another myt…

There is ample research that cannabis functions as an anti-depressant. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=cannabis+as+antidepress... There are many caveats that go into posting a Google Scholar link - the quality of the research is unknown, there is the reproducibility crisis to worry about, etc. etc; However, the presence of this ample research means that "Cannabis isn't actually an anti-depressant" is far from se…

Most of those top links are for cannabidiol, not cannabis. One of the top results clearly says that scant research suggesting that cannabis is an antidepressant is lacking in quality.

Your link doesn’t even begin to support your claims.

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Post by BobbyJo »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #411
BobbyJo wrote: post #397

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Did you miss the part where the kid became a heroin addict? Heroin will certainly provide long term impairment in the form of a lifelong addiction. Hard to find the effect of MJ in that long shadow.

I’m not sure why you’re asking if I missed that part given it was me that shared the anecdote to begin with.

Because that doesn't seem to be factoring into your analysis of the source of the impairment.

If I told a story about a kid who showed back up at band camp and had become 50 pounds heavier and hadn't progressed as a drummer, then went on to become a heroin addict etc. you wouldn't be blaming cookies. You'd stop and wonder what the hell was going on in his life.

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