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FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by globular-toast »

godot wrote: post #112

Don't most PDF reader software (Adobe or otherwise) have the functionality to let you imprint a signature onto a PDF file and save it as a new file? You'd have to set up your signature (likely by scanning it) the first time, but once it's done, you can "sign" PDF documents with by clicking a couple buttons. I've done that for a ton of documents by now and have never heard a complaint.

Yeah but they don't accept that. They literally make you print out, sign in ink then scan back in and reject it if they detect you haven't done that properly.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by jaycroft »

function_seven wrote: post #122
xur17 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a png of my signature, and I just paste it into the pdf, and submit that. Haven't run into a complaint yet, and I don't have to print anything.

Just a couple months ago I had a couple of forms rejected with a note “needs wet signature” They were for a 401(k) plan I was updating RMD choices. I got the PDF form from their site, filled it out in Preview, pasted my signature PNG, and used an app on my phone to fax it(!) to their number. Got rejected. Had to actually print the damn things and sign them with a pen, scan them again with my phone’s camera, and re-fa…

As an HR administrator for a small business, this absolutely grinds my gears. According to every accountant and consultant I've ever talked to, the "wet signature" rule is enshrined in federal law (although I have yet to be able to find out exactly where). It applies to all brokerage operations (opening your custodial accounts); employee applications (even internal to your own company that never leave your own filing cabinet - keep in case of audit!); statements of information (form 5500) filed with the IRS (it's the only form you can't submit electronically - needs a wet signature?!). For everything else we deal with a saved drop-in signature in Acrobat works just fine. Almost not worth the employee's savings given their low participation rate and general ambivalence to the whole program.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by marcellus23 »

koliber wrote: post #130
heydonovan wrote: post #71

I hate PDF's with a passion. Not once have I ever wanted to use one. All the pinching and zooming, such a waste of time. I'm giving this a shot next time I need one, the whole scanner thing needs to go. Are we stuck in the 90's? Just bought another rental and it was an ordeal trying to find a scanner. Tried the college near me, was denied as you have to be a student. The library is closed down apparently. FedEx didn'…

Smart phone scanning apps are incredible. I’ve ditched a flatbed years ago and solely rely on my iPhone. It works like magic. The quality is good-to-great, and it fits well with my workflow. Worth the ten bucks or so investment.

Don't even need to spend $10 — the scanning is built into iOS, you can get to it from the Files or the Notes app, or even from your Mac (right-click somewhere and "Import from iPhone or iPad").

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by GoOnThenDoTell »

NovemberWhiskey wrote: post #123
dheera wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love this. Also why does the DMV need a proof of residence? What if you live in a van?

The DMV typically needs a proof of residency because you're only allowed to have one state license - the one for the state of which you're a resident.

What’s inherently wrong with being licensed in multiple states?

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by SamBam »

cpitman wrote: post #95

I had another version of this at the DMV. They needed to see bills that offered proof of my residence (ie power/water/etc). Turns out they wanted them to be mailed to you, which wasn't going to work because I do paperless billing for everything. So I printed them out and tri-folded them as if it had been in an envelope. People in front of me in line got turned away for using printed bills, but mine worked just fine.

Clever. Also remember to remove the printer headers and footers.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by JadeNB »

kube-system wrote: post #135
devwastaken wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they also do this for ID's, and for voter ID's. It's specifically created to prevent people whom don't have only 1 permanent address,with paper billing, being able to live their daily lives. I had to go to a local county courthouse 4 times to get a "realid" and to renew a driver's license. I had to call all sorts of people to get printed statements sent to me. It's incredibly ridiculous, I would call it complete…

The point is to authenticate residency, and while it’s not a great system, there also isn’t any better alternatives.

> The point is to authenticate residency, and while it’s not a great system, there also isn’t any better alternatives.

"No-one important enough is bothered, so we haven't had to try to fix it" is a far cry from "there [aren't] any better alternatives". We're HN; that's not the hacker ethos.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by tombert »

function_seven wrote: post #122
xur17 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a png of my signature, and I just paste it into the pdf, and submit that. Haven't run into a complaint yet, and I don't have to print anything.

Just a couple months ago I had a couple of forms rejected with a note “needs wet signature” They were for a 401(k) plan I was updating RMD choices. I got the PDF form from their site, filled it out in Preview, pasted my signature PNG, and used an app on my phone to fax it(!) to their number. Got rejected. Had to actually print the damn things and sign them with a pen, scan them again with my phone’s camera, and re-fa…

Do you think it might have worked if you had run it through this FalsiScan program?

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by SamBam »

xur17 wrote: post #89
tombert wrote: post #32

I really hate dealing with my printer (or any printer for that matter), so I make pretty liberal use of my drawing tablet at this point. I import the PDF into Krita, use the ballpoint pen brush, and sign. I export to PNG, then use an imagemagick script to rotate it some random number between 1-3 degrees, and add noise onto it to look like a scan. It's a pain, but it's still less annoying than dealing with a printer.

I have a png of my signature, and I just paste it into the pdf, and submit that. Haven't run into a complaint yet, and I don't have to print anything.

It depends on what you're signing. My letters of authorization to my bank require a "wet signature." Scanned or photographed and emailed is fine, but they want you to print and sign, and they've sent it back to me when they can tell I've used a digital stamp.

This product looks interesting, although the idea of me entering coordinates for the stamp instead of just stamping it in a GUI is not at all appealing...

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Post by nyir »

xur17 wrote: post #89
tombert wrote: post #32

I really hate dealing with my printer (or any printer for that matter), so I make pretty liberal use of my drawing tablet at this point. I import the PDF into Krita, use the ballpoint pen brush, and sign. I export to PNG, then use an imagemagick script to rotate it some random number between 1-3 degrees, and add noise onto it to look like a scan. It's a pain, but it's still less annoying than dealing with a printer.

I have a png of my signature, and I just paste it into the pdf, and submit that. Haven't run into a complaint yet, and I don't have to print anything.

Ditto, had it only once that they complained the signature on separate documents was identical. Well, just wrote it down a couple more times in case I run into that again.
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