Live data from Hacker News

‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

theguardian.com

21–30 of 75 posts

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#21
post #16

I’m stalking my whole family - with daily warnings to everyone - because apparently Apple hasn’t realized it can be useful to have keys shared within a family. We do all have iPhones connected to the same family account. This is a glaring omission.

If you're in the same family account there's a button to turn off those alerts. It worked for my family.

That must be new because it want there a few months ago.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#22
post #11

I found the beep on lost (in this case, "lost" but not in a malicious way) tags to be pretty quiet or just not distinctive. While taking care of a friends cat with an airtag in the collar I kept thinking I was hearing a car down the block or maybe my PC was making a strange sound. Even knowing about the behavior and expecting to hear a beep I didn't pick up on it for several days.

We have an AirTag in our dog's collar which is registered to my wife's AppleID¹ The first walk I took with the dog after she put it on the dog, I got a notification about an unidentified AirTag (which included her email address and I think phone number) following me.

⸻⸻⸻

1. My single big complaint about AirTags is that they can't be shared between Apple IDs. Presumably that will be changed in a future software upgrade. Right now, only my devices can be used to find my things and her devices her things even though we can use Find My to find each others devices.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#23

> “If you really are nefarious and evil and you really want to find someone, there are things that are much better than an AirTag” (...) While it's true that there are better ways to stalk people, I think an AirTag brings something to the table that wasn't there before: the normalization of having stalking hardware at hand. Buying a "stalker kit" requires me to think long and hard about stalking someone. I need to ma…

No post body was provided.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#24

This is excellent news; Apple designed these to be difficult to use to stalk someone, and those features are working. Hopefully this makes enough noise that Tile and GPS trackers are forced to implement similar features.

It merely announces stalking, rather than preventing it, yes?

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#25
post #8

This is excellent news; Apple designed these to be difficult to use to stalk someone, and those features are working. Hopefully this makes enough noise that Tile and GPS trackers are forced to implement similar features.

I don't think any of this is excellent news. I'm sure the beep can be easily dismantled, we've been through that with the required camera sound nonsense. And security/privacy conscious people keep Bluetooth and NFC off for security/privacy reasons.

There's articles all over the Internet on how to remove/disable the speaker on airtags. Doesn't look to hard to do either, no hardware sensing if this is the case so it just keeps on working.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the assertion was that someone could disable the beeping. However, I don't think a speaker is a requirement for Find My (I could be wrong). I don't think this has one: https://chipolo.net/en-us/products/chipolo-card-spot?cl=head...

One of the listed features is that it reaches 105 dB.

You are right. I searched for 'speaker', which didn't work :(

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#28
post #23

> “If you really are nefarious and evil and you really want to find someone, there are things that are much better than an AirTag” (...) While it's true that there are better ways to stalk people, I think an AirTag brings something to the table that wasn't there before: the normalization of having stalking hardware at hand. Buying a "stalker kit" requires me to think long and hard about stalking someone. I need to ma…

Quoted post unavailable.

Often the only thing preventing people from doing things is the barrier to entry.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#29
post #23

> “If you really are nefarious and evil and you really want to find someone, there are things that are much better than an AirTag” (...) While it's true that there are better ways to stalk people, I think an AirTag brings something to the table that wasn't there before: the normalization of having stalking hardware at hand. Buying a "stalker kit" requires me to think long and hard about stalking someone. I need to ma…

Quoted post unavailable.

Depends on how you define stalker honestly. They probably wouldn't be sitting in trees with binoculars or stuff like that, but they might slip airtags into people's stuff.

Re: ‘I was just scared’: Apple AirTags lead to stalking complaints

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are airtags difficult to use to stalk someone with an android phone? Most don't know about it and don't install anything to prevent it.

Is the beeping not enough? I understand you don’t get a phone notification but it would be obvious as long as you’re near the tag.

It shouldn’t be too difficult to remove the beeper from the device, or disable it somehow.
Post reply on HN