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Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by Cwizard »

dehrmann wrote: post #215
Cwizard wrote: post #208

I live in a smaller city in Europe where wages aren’t anywhere close to what you often see mentioned on HN, with the shift to remote, should I start considering a full-remote position? How do you find these positions? Any advice on this topic would be appreciated. (For context I have 2 YOE, mostly backend, kubernetes, aws and I currently earn around €50k a year which not a bad salary for my area)

> For context I have 2 YOE People with relatively little experience are some of the worst candidates for remote positions. Not saying anything about you in particular, but they tend to need more guidance and get stuck more easily. Not only that, there's a lot of learning though osmosis that won't happen when they're not near other people.

Understandable, at what level of experience do you consider remote an option? In my current position I am a ‘tech lead’ (not as glamorous as it sounds) most of the people I mentor have little engineering experience (most people come from a operations or scripting background). I am an OK programmer but I have good organisational skills and wrote a lot of code before starting work so I have a bit of ‘unofficial’ experience, therefore I was chosen I think. I have a lot te learn still but overall I think I am good at my job. Just wondering what I can do to increase my salary.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by aweb »

I was wondering about that topic recently!

Before COVID, offering remote was a big differentiator for startups and definitely considered a perk.

Now, it's becoming so common that I guess they should offer something new to attract talent, and I'm wondering if it could be a 4-day week? I'd be very interested by that in any case.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by heurisko »

nostrebored wrote: post #53
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

> People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason.

Companies have been paying for open plan offices for years. When I first started my career I found it bizarre that open plan offices were in any way considered suitable for programming problems.

However it's evident that many companies haven't got an issue with handicapping their staff in this way.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by culturestate »

missedthecue wrote: post #205
mulmen wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a precisely zero percent chance that customer service works better in person. I have done it personally. My mom did it for over a decade from home . Engineering is not the only task that can be done remotely.

I actually work in customer service for a tech company right now. We do some days in the office and most days remote. Being remote is worse for productivity. For instance, when I need to ask a team mate a question, they respond in slack at their convenience. At the office it takes 20 seconds. Communication and collaboration seem orders of magnitude more difficult remotely. Yes, client services can be done remotely. Y…

> For instance, when I need to ask a team mate a question, they respond in slack at their convenience. At the office it takes 20 seconds.

This seems like something that can be pretty easily solved with a process change, no?

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by andy_ppp »

andrewingram wrote: post #239
andy_ppp wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is going to do that are they, it's insane for tax jurisdictions to want to do this they are just doing themselves out of 10% rather than winning 55%.

It's hard to see how a startup could solve it without setting themselves up as a legal entity in each country they want to employ people. Which is the very thing they use Deel and Remote to try and avoid.

I think you're thinking too small. Someone with clout would need to talk to each government and get them to agree to a set of rules around this and consequent taxation. The alternative is getting no income from this, why not just make it clear and simple and make it make sense for each country.

I mean a lot of countries have visa programmes now if you're trying to build a startup so why not for digital nomads?

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Post by toyg »

jzoch wrote: post #210
missedthecue wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me how everyone seems to agree that remote school and college are huge failures and students are falling behind, but when it comes to their remote jobs, they'll go to great lengths to deny any reduction in efficiency, collaboration, or productivity.

perhaps if you are driven and understand what you are supposed to be working on remote work is not a tall order. School, on the other hand, is not intrinsically as interesting as whatever career you chose . You don't get paid. You are younger (and thus may be less able to concentrate on boring tasks). They are different. In some contexts more than others but still different. I love going into the office but pretendin…

> School, on the other hand, is not intrinsically as interesting as whatever career you chose

Also, modern mass-schooling was built largely on the model of, and to prepare to, industrial production processes.

People get taught at early age that they have to go somewhere to listen to some authority, who will assign them tasks they may or may not care about, and they will be rewarded if such tasks are successfully executed. Tasks will become increasingly complex with time, but such progression is largely not managed by pupils. They are controlled very strictly at every step, and there is little or no flexibility or power for them to control their day: they must congregate in specific buildings at specific times, and then act as requested.

Is it surprising, then, that most of them might need such structure reproduced later in life...? Maybe if we taught them more self-direction earlier on, there would be a smaller risk of "loss of productivity when unchecked".

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Post by draw_down »

danjac wrote: post #240
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Saw a developer position recently which stated remote, but with expectation to come into the office twice a week. This would include workers from quite far away who would likely spend the day travelling, or have to spend two nights a week away from home. This seemed very odd - why would I need to schlep my laptop to come into the office to do the same job I do at home? I mean the occasional on-site is fine, but twice…

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Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by cipheredStones »

71a54xd wrote: post #29
colordrops wrote: post #16

Startups are going to either need to start paying a lot more or giving more serious equity stakes if they want to hire anyone who isn't straight out of college or already wealthy.

It's surprisingly hard to consistently find startups willing to pay over $140k - some offers are low key insulting. However, if I cared less about having any semblance of a social life I'd leave new york immediately. $200k+ full remote, I'd never go back.

FWIW, as a BE engineer with ~3 YOE, I recently got three full-remote startup offers between $200-210k. These were from companies based on the West Coast, though, so I'm not sure whether or not that's relevant to you. (I wasn't looking at stuff based out east, for time zone reasons.)

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by [deleted] »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #214
Cwizard wrote: post #208

I live in a smaller city in Europe where wages aren’t anywhere close to what you often see mentioned on HN, with the shift to remote, should I start considering a full-remote position? How do you find these positions? Any advice on this topic would be appreciated. (For context I have 2 YOE, mostly backend, kubernetes, aws and I currently earn around €50k a year which not a bad salary for my area)

But that 50K probably gets you healthcare, education and safe, clean functioning society? In other country you have to pay for this stuff separately since the governments/systems are dumb or corrupt. So I'd say the 50K is reasonable. Another thing to look at is the ratio of between how much you per month after all taxes and how much 2/3 bedroom houses cost.

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