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Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by jacobmischka »

ycombobreaker wrote: post #227
chii wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

remote learning and colleges remove the element of physical social interaction between students (and to a degree, teachers). This element is important for learning imho. remote working removes this very same element, but because nobody cares that an employee doesn't learn, it is irrelevant. But certainly remote working affects on-boarding new people, and not just knowledge wise, but also team cohesion and ability to…

> nobody cares that an employee doesn't learn, it is irrelevant. I have learned shitloads as an employee, and that's why I get paid more now than ten years ago. If you aren't learning at work, something is wrong.

The employee cares, but most employers do not. That's why changing jobs every couple years gets people 20% pay increases these days but they're lucky to get an inflationary raise at their yearly review.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by KronisLV »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

I actually wrote a blog post about this divide of how some people really prefer to work in the office, whereas for others it's a non starter, at least after the pandemic showed to us that remote work is very feasible in this industry "Remote working and the elephant in the room": https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/remote-working-and-the-elep...

In the long term, i only see this divide growing, cultures forming around each of the approaches based on what works for different types of individuals. Who knows what that will look like in a few years.

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Post by smt88 »

kortilla wrote: post #222
ipnon wrote: post #175

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New York is the worst! There's nothing to do if you don't like drinking, concerts, going to the park, visiting museums, touring galleries, eating every type of cuisine known to man, hanging out at the beach, skateboarding, bicycle riding, dance classes, heavy metal, reggaeton, nightclubs, techno raves, rock climbing gyms, Tinder dates, playing speedchess for money, listening to buskers, riding the subway, vintage clo…

Don’t forget the sensitive egos!

I've found that everyone who loves living in New York is either rich or thinks that no other city has [list of things every big city has], and admitting that quality of life there is low becomes this enormous pride issue.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by andy_ppp »

andrewingram wrote: post #116
andy_ppp wrote: post #19

Are there any startups attempting to sort out the tax situation when working from different places. It would involve a lot of figuring out with governments but as things stand I think being a digital nomad is going to be done semi illegally. I would definitely sign up and pay my fair share to the correct jurisdiction.

And not just for salaries, which can be handled with companies like Deel and Remote. For me equity is the bigger concern. If I join a UK startup, best case scenario is paying 10% tax on the upside of any exit windfalls. If I join any company outside the UK, that immediately jumps to ~55%.

Nobody is going to do that are they, it's insane for tax jurisdictions to want to do this they are just doing themselves out of 10% rather than winning 55%.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by onion2k »

chii wrote: post #224
onion2k wrote: post #219

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everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company That's an interesting opinion, and very different to my experience, because investors were the first group of people I encountered who really embraced remote work. Two decades ago I worked for a company that had remote meetings with investors, remote board meetings, and that did work remotely. We had f…

it's possible that remote meetings are effective for those investors because they have a narrow band of requirements from such meetings (gathering information and analysis etc), but effective for long term employees who would benefit from physical close-proximity (the water-cooler style propagation of ideas for example).

effective for long term employees who would benefit from physical close-proximity (the water-cooler style propagation of ideas for example)

You can still have those when you work remotely. There just needs to be a mechanism set up to actively share things - where I work at the moment we have a weekly "web engineers" huddle to share ideas, tools, and articles we've found. We have Slack and stuff as well obviously, and we talk to each other, but there needs to be something slightly more formal when you're remote.

FWIW I've also worked in companies that had no "water-cooler chat" despite being physically present. You have to consciously want to talk to people, and some companies are full of people who just don't.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by chii »

onion2k wrote: post #235
chii wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's possible that remote meetings are effective for those investors because they have a narrow band of requirements from such meetings (gathering information and analysis etc), but effective for long term employees who would benefit from physical close-proximity (the water-cooler style propagation of ideas for example).

effective for long term employees who would benefit from physical close-proximity (the water-cooler style propagation of ideas for example) You can still have those when you work remotely. There just needs to be a mechanism set up to actively share things - where I work at the moment we have a weekly "web engineers" huddle to share ideas, tools, and articles we've found. We have Slack and stuff as well obviously, and…

> had no "water-cooler chat" despite being physically present

i'm not saying that just because one is physically present that this would occur - i'm saying that for this to occur, physical proximity is a necessary (but insufficient) condition.

Making this process of osmosis more formal just defeats the purpose - after all, these huddles and idea meetings and "demo days" already happen in a remote setting (at least, if your company's management decides its worth the time to replicate it remotely).

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by j4yav »

nostrebored wrote: post #53
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

Does everybody really know this? How do they explain all-remote unicorns where all the departments seem to be able to be effective remotely? My experience having worked at a couple of them now is that people are more productive once async working really takes hold.

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Post by ihateolives »

midrus wrote: post #193
nostrebored wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

Not my experience at all. The last two companies I've worked for where 100% remote, in both of these places engineering was a lot more productive. I personally invested less total time in work (about 7 or 8 hours total) and got a lot more done. Both of these companies had a culture of writing things down, so everything was documented, an all important conversations where posted in the open for anyone to see. Everythi…

> Both of these companies had a culture of writing things down, so everything was documented, an all important conversations where posted in the open for anyone to see. Everything is searchable.

That's one of the key factors for remote work success. Tribal knowledge stops working when team goes remote. Especially onboarding sucks because there's nobody who could just drop by and help you with first steps. It's harder to do when remoting. Last two places I've worked had nothing written down and it was colossal waste of time trying to get started because knowledge was scattered among people, some of whom had already left the company. I mean, you know that you're hiring for a particular position, then ensure that everything needed is either taken care of or written down and accessible. But no, I needed to waste first weeks just piecing needed information together. 1/10, would not do again.

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Post by andrewingram »

andy_ppp wrote: post #234
andrewingram wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And not just for salaries, which can be handled with companies like Deel and Remote. For me equity is the bigger concern. If I join a UK startup, best case scenario is paying 10% tax on the upside of any exit windfalls. If I join any company outside the UK, that immediately jumps to ~55%.

Nobody is going to do that are they, it's insane for tax jurisdictions to want to do this they are just doing themselves out of 10% rather than winning 55%.

It's hard to see how a startup could solve it without setting themselves up as a legal entity in each country they want to employ people. Which is the very thing they use Deel and Remote to try and avoid.

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Post by danjac »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Saw a developer position recently which stated remote, but with expectation to come into the office twice a week. This would include workers from quite far away who would likely spend the day travelling, or have to spend two nights a week away from home.

This seemed very odd - why would I need to schlep my laptop to come into the office to do the same job I do at home? I mean the occasional on-site is fine, but twice a week?

My conclusion was either that they wanted to have two day-long onsite meetings a week and damn the productivity hit and travel costs (Red Flag #1) or their management was deeply insecure and had to somehow justify their existence (or a property rent payment) by dragging their dev team into the office (Red Flag #2).

I mean either commit to remote or stick to on-prem, but this made their management look like idiots.

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