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Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by SantalBlush »

tikhonj wrote: post #74
nostrebored wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

People keep on saying this but it's just not obviously true. > People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Companies do so many suboptimal things that this argument isn't credible. We've seen how many organizations can barely limp through a "digital transformation", so why should we expect them to be operating anywhere near optimally along other axes? They could just as easily be payi…

>We've seen how many organizations can barely limp through a "digital transformation", so why should we expect them to be operating anywhere near optimally along other axes?

This is an excellent point that I'd never thought of. It demonstrates that a lot of companies resist change at their own peril, and not because it's the shrewd thing to do.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by runevault »

nostrebored wrote: post #53
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

My employer believed as you are claiming, and so we had office space. I had to fight tooth and nail to keep my work from home part time schedule pre-pandemic because they were so obsessed with people being in the office. Then the pandemic hit and they saw no discernable loss in productivity. They no longer require people to come in and in fact we expanded our hiring to allow remote workers because there was 0 reason not to.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by moises_silva »

tikhonj wrote: post #74
nostrebored wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

People keep on saying this but it's just not obviously true. > People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Companies do so many suboptimal things that this argument isn't credible. We've seen how many organizations can barely limp through a "digital transformation", so why should we expect them to be operating anywhere near optimally along other axes? They could just as easily be payi…

> People keep on saying this but it's just not obviously true.

How is it obviously not true? I mean. I love remote work. I started working remotely way before it was mainstream and I'm advocate for it. I've managed remote teams for many years too. Even so, I can't claim there's no performance hit. I just think the performance hit is small enough that in most cases the benefits for people and businesses outweigh it.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by macintux »

MattGaiser wrote: post #83
andrew_ wrote: post #80

I turned on messages (and InMail) on LinkedIn 48 hours ago out of sheer morbid curiosity as to what would happen. At last count I received 124 new messages from recruiters. It's insane how thirsty they are right now. As for the positions; I'm being offered 40-60% of my current salary, and they're in the same range below someone with the same amount experience in the industry niche I inhabit. (That's a pretty good ind…

124 messages in 48 hours? I felt overwhelmed processing with my 5 a day, haha.

I don’t think I’m getting anything at all. Good to feel wanted!

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by Ostrogodsky »

arrakis2021 wrote: post #61
nostrebored wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

This. As someone who works remotely and loves it, I’ve observed this on HN for years. It’s like engineers can’t (or won’t?) acknowledge that other roles in an organization go beyond staring at lines of code on a computer screen. Hell, even product managers I know like coming in to an office to collaborate on the big whiteboard wall they can’t fit inside their home.

Just to offer a different perspective, I worked in a "normal" blue chip company, and people in most roles (finance, marketing, sales, logistics,legal) preferred by far to work away from the office the days it was allowed. Only R&D (for obvious reasons) didnt have that chance and even then it was not unheard of. Going to an open plan office destroys your soul.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by andrewingram »

andy_ppp wrote: post #19

Are there any startups attempting to sort out the tax situation when working from different places. It would involve a lot of figuring out with governments but as things stand I think being a digital nomad is going to be done semi illegally. I would definitely sign up and pay my fair share to the correct jurisdiction.

And not just for salaries, which can be handled with companies like Deel and Remote. For me equity is the bigger concern.

If I join a UK startup, best case scenario is paying 10% tax on the upside of any exit windfalls. If I join any company outside the UK, that immediately jumps to ~55%.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by sanderjd »

flog wrote: post #91
sanderjd wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is an overloaded term... It just means that there is no office you are expected to go into. Those things you identified are just other dimensions that are also important.

I guess what I was hinting at was the difficulty in filtering "remote" roles

Yeah it would be good to include all those dimensions in listings, I agree.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by AlexCoventry »

cm2012 wrote: post #92
nostrebored wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

Marketing works better remote, and most agencies will be remote moving forward forever. Source: I know many agency owners, also am one. Also, most marketers I've been trying to recruit have said their agency's are remote indefinitely now.

What are the advantages of remote work, for marketing?

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by cm2012 »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #118
cm2012 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketing works better remote, and most agencies will be remote moving forward forever. Source: I know many agency owners, also am one. Also, most marketers I've been trying to recruit have said their agency's are remote indefinitely now.

What are the advantages of remote work, for marketing?

1) More access to talent and happier talent.

2) As an agency, everyone being remote means we are more embedded with clients than before. All on the same Slack etc instead of in a separate office.

3) People use better collaboration tools

4) More things are written down

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Post by zebraflask »

nostrebored wrote: post #53
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #40

I honestly don't understand how any startup can even hope to compete if they don't offer remote options. Hiring is incredibly tight right now, and I'm sure glad my options are "anybody within ~2 timezones" over basically only people within a 15 mile radius of my office because traffic is horrendous in my city. Not to mention, how have companies not realized how to build robust remote company cultures over the past 2…

Because everyone who seriously invests money in businesses knows that there’s a performance hit you take as a remote company. People haven’t been paying for offices for the last ten years for no reason. Engineering is one segment where this penalty seems to be lower. However, engineers seem to be unable to understand that every other function functions better in person. The tradeoff you’re hoping to make is that the…

This doesn't pass the sniff test.

For a basic non-engineering example, think about B2B sales. How much of a typical B2B sales cycle involves phone calls and emails and video meetings versus how much involves in-person meetings? Hasn't the first part of that more or less been "remote" since well before the virus?

To an extent, I think a large part of this view, as other comments have noted, might involve things like expensive office leases, etc., and to a certain mindset - realizing that a company doesn't necessarily need much of a physical presence highlights many varieties of poor longterm decision-making.

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