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Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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I know most people will love this, but it's made it newly impossible to find jobs that will sponsor visas for those of us that want to move abroad

Looks like there's plenty of countries that offer remote work visas. https://www.letsdeel.com/blog/remote-work-visas

Seems like a problem that will eventually self correct as more jobs go remote and countries realize they have to compete with each other for residents so they can profit off of these worker's productivity.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Remote is such an overloaded term. Is it US/North America only? Is it equal work for equal pay globally? I was someone who took the opportunity to relocate back to my home country when Covid struck, but had to take a near 50% pay cut to do so, despite doing the same work. I'm surprised this hasn't become more of a hot button issue within the community.

I don't think it is an overloaded term... It just means that there is no office you are expected to go into. Those things you identified are just other dimensions that are also important.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Be interesting to know for the "remotes" how remote is remote. Some are localish remotes, some are world wide remotes, and some somewhere in-between. One of the problems seems to be ( and I'm sure some start up will try to solve this) is employing people worldwide has a lot of legal issues with regards to local employment laws and payment issues.

There's companies that specialize in global employment*, either by being employers of record in the employee's country and managing all that means, letting the actual company that wants to hire the employee not worry about that. Some similarly assist with contract positions in such situations

letsdeel.com and remote.com are two such companies that provide this kind of service.

* well I should actually call it global HR, not employment.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Even within remote companies there are distinctions between the way different teams practice remote. For example, a lot of companies that transitioned to remote out of necessity come from the perspective of copy / pasting in-office activities online (ie meetings, happy hours, etc) whereas natively remote companies think about things from a more original and untethered view (async, writing, Looms). Be careful to spot…

Please, would love to hear more about your point about "(async, writing, Looms)" :-)

I'd just had the pleasure to work at a unicorn which started during the pandemic, but for whatever reason wanted to open actual offices mid-term. The result being that some teams were working more async-y than others.

And I immediatly felt, there's a need to explore how to sync teams in an async way, including many yet-to-exist tech-solutions.

So please, elaborate!

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Are there any startups attempting to sort out the tax situation when working from different places. It would involve a lot of figuring out with governments but as things stand I think being a digital nomad is going to be done semi illegally. I would definitely sign up and pay my fair share to the correct jurisdiction.

I just heard of Mosey, though I think they are focused on different states within the US (at least at first). https://mosey.so/

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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90% I predict. There is little to no advantage of having an in-office work force for tech startups unless physical presence is necessary for the job. Managers can crow all they want about wanting to see asses in chairs but the data does not support it.

Myself and many people I know can't stand permanent WFH and specifically seek jobs with offices.

Yeah I think the steady state is that the number will very closely match the percentage of people that other remote vs. offices. I don't have a good sense for how that breaks down, but my sense is that it's over 50% that prefer remote, but not 90%.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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90% I predict. There is little to no advantage of having an in-office work force for tech startups unless physical presence is necessary for the job. Managers can crow all they want about wanting to see asses in chairs but the data does not support it.

Myself and many people I know can't stand permanent WFH and specifically seek jobs with offices.

I prefer full WFH myself, but I think a lot depends on the family situation, too. Some people have small kids and it's hard for them to WFH, though people are more understanding if some little kid walks into an online meeting yelling about something these days.

Other people just like the structure of it or they have a good desk setup at work and not as good a place to work from at home.

Re: 70% of startups offer remote work options as hiring heats up, YC data shows

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Those aren't the only levers. Imagine a three day work week. Or part time work, letting you also maintain your FANGA job.

Sure, I'm referring to recruiting FTEs. I'd be surprised if a startup offered a 3 day work week at the same or even for less comp. Perhaps for specialist skills.

I've found a few places offering things like that, I think it would be pretty valuable from a recruiting standpoint, but not a lot of adoption. I think it's the next step after remote work - calibrate the hours per week according to your preferences, instead of one size fits all.

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I think a common solution to this is that if you want to be a remote worker with a worldwide employment pool, you need to set-up an entity from under which to invoice, whether that would be freelancing or having an LLC, and then you take care of your taxes, healthcare, and so on yourself. At least this is how I know everyone (myself included) do it. It's not really complicated, you just need to hire an accountant, an…

The more common this becomes the more likely people in the US (where most people are trying to work) take notice and enforce existing labor laws, and push for more regulation. I’ve worked with people doing this in the past and they almost certainly are contractors in name only. That is they are essentially full time employees operating as contractors to skirt legal issues.

askonomm wrote remote worker, not remote employee.

A remote worker can be an independent contractor and easily not run afoul of employee/contractor distinctions, especially because a lot of those distinctions have to do with being at a certain place at a certain time, and being locked to one client.

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That’s probably because the jobs you’re thinking of offer incredible offices. How would you feel if the office was just cheap fluorescent lighting lit cubicles in some shitty part of town? Maybe a cat poster for some motivation.

Yeah, I suspect this is where a lot of the 'debate' is coming from. My experience is that Google/FB/etc... have (a slight) majority preferring WFO for at least 3 days, and other companies are overwhelmingly WFH.

I dunno, I went into one of these really nice offices most days a week for awhile after it reopened in the fall. But the novelty wore off and I haven't been going in that much recently. But I do think part of this is that it's still a ghost town, so it's not that much fun to go in there. But that will change eventually.
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