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Ask HN: I lack foresight. How to cope?

#1
Hey hackers.

I'm feeling down because I'm lacking the basic ability to look ahead, to the point of maddening.

For example, today I was moving boxes to my car. And just now I realized that I left something I need in one of the boxes. I KNEW that I will need it. It just somehow didn't occur to me at the time.

This trivial example is basically what my whole life looks like. I keep plowing around, back and forth whenever I decide to do ANYTHING. Just chaos.

I've tried thinking ahead, whenever I do, I can only think of a monkey smashing two cymbals together. Everything I do, I do inefficiently because of it and things only makes sense in hindsight.

A software developer without foresight, what a dumb combination :(

Is there any hope for me? ANYTHING at all? Any mental exercises? Or is it purely genetics?

Re: Ask HN: I lack foresight. How to cope?

#2
That's why checklists were invented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preflight_checklist

A previous girlfriend literally "simulated" every event and created what she called a "flight plan" that she memorized and followed. That seemed to me as a very neat algorithmic solution. I'm a programmer with bad memory but that solution has helped me with some tasks and keeping my job at large companies.

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#4

Is this an actual issue? Is it possible you are just being too harsh on yourself?

yeah you probably just realized this one case. Like how there are PhD students with imposter syndrome, and PhD students / professors who are geniuses in their field but are completely scatterbrained.

Everyone “lacks” foresight sometimes (e.g. covid). Just be aware, and understand you don’t always think ahead, and you’ll be better off than many.

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#5
As you get older, your ability to remember things diminishes. On top of that, you will likely get more busy as you take on more and more responsibilities. I think you haven't hit rock bottom yet to say "i don't want to fucking feel this way anymore". I think it's quite possible you're okay with forgetting things and you are probably quite tolerant of the negative consequences. Eventually you will hate your life enough to make a change. The required change isn't complex: make a plan, write it down, follow it, iterate. but what i suspect is that you lack the will to do anything about it. You need to reflect on who you really want to be. no hack is going to change your will to live differently.

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#7
ADHD? CTPST? I have a glitchy little neurological misconfiguration that stops me judging distances properly if I'm moving, and it very precisely stops me driving safely and basically has no other effect on my life.

It's worth checking for neurological stuff - are you dyslexic? Dyspraxic? How's working memory? Visual recall?

You may find that you've got a little bit of odd wiring, and the relevant field professionals may have some tips.

Your complaint is specific enough that I think it would be worth trying to narrow it down and check for a neurological cause. Like dyslexia, there may not be much that can be done about it, but you may discover you love audiobooks as a result of understanding the situation more clearly.

Re: Ask HN: I lack foresight. How to cope?

#8

ADHD? CTPST? I have a glitchy little neurological misconfiguration that stops me judging distances properly if I'm moving, and it very precisely stops me driving safely and basically has no other effect on my life. It's worth checking for neurological stuff - are you dyslexic? Dyspraxic? How's working memory? Visual recall? You may find that you've got a little bit of odd wiring, and the relevant field professionals…

CPTSD.

Dyslexia. Strikes. Again.

Re: Ask HN: I lack foresight. How to cope?

#10
You aren't "modelling the world." You're trying to substitute some quick logic, instead, which just doesn't work for the vast majority of real world problems. You have to imagine yourself in the future to get the right answer, but you won't. Why do people avoid this?

In my experience, because anxiety. A little quick logic doesn't bring up emotions in anything like the way literally putting yourself into imagined scenarios and walk-throughs does, particularly ones where everything doesn't go right. I share this in some ways, due to a nasty childhood; but I have a friend who has racked up a lifetime of very bad decisions from bad marriages to dead pets, which continue on every month, every day 'cause there's no way in hell she's gonna imagine nuttin', never. Needless to say, her childhood was probably nastier than mine.

A few months ago, when I delivered a radiant heater to her apartment when she had COVID-19, she spoke to me, thanking me from just behind the door right as I put the heater in front of her door just a foot away, with windows open in her apartment blowing air out around the door. Goodbye to a couple weeks for me. Logic, no visual imagination or other simulation 'cause it made her too anxious. She literally didn't grok that I was inches away or could be. Just used some logic about politeness. I was stunned she was within 10 feet of that door. I never would have been. I use my visual imagination in life and death situations, at least; and I'm slowly expanding how much I'm willing to use it.

See ffggh and "simulation," here. Same point, but they said it quicker.

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