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No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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In this thread: a lot of people trying to justify their preexisting choice to drink or remain sober.

Sane people find arguments for stuff they do. If they don't have reasoning (scientific or emotional) for their behaviour, they either change or they aren't sane.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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"it’s not a source of empty calories" Until you get the munchies...

Healthy food tastes better too. Honestly I’ve grown sick of simple snack foods by now. I’d much rather eat a nice meal

I wish more folks realized this. I tend to eat healthier if I smoke regularly because of this.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Yes, the mind is an emergent property of the networks of the brain.

Or maybe you have a soul.

The soul is an emergent property of the mind and body interacting with the world.

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For comparaison, smoking is ~10 years of life expectancy reduction https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/heal... . Surprisingly obesity seems to only replace some of your last years with years with diabetes, without decreasing your longevity https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC4951120/ . I think I didn't read that study correctly, or didn't find a good one. Air pollution might be aroun…

> obesity seems to only replace some of your last years with years with diabetes, without decreasing your longevity That's probably only because we can generally manage diabetes pretty well, though it does impose a lot of cost on society to do so.

> we can generally manage diabetes pretty well

We can but it requires the patient to manage their blood sugar very, very carefully and a lot of them can't do it 100% of the time. Whenever they don't, the damage happens and it accrues. I see a guy in the 'hood who's had much of his foot amputated as a result of diabetes.

Or so I've heard. I'm not diabetic myself.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Everything is a balance though, isn't it? If a little alcohol reduces one's stress and increases socialization, then they may be better off with the alcohol on net.

It's not obvious that alcohol reduces stress.

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Although I live in a place where weed is legal, I don’t use it. I enjoy the occasional glass of a nice scotch, though, and I love a good stout or porter beer. This is where it gets a little strange for me: by every metric I can think of, I’d be better off replacing alcohol with weed. There seem to be fewer negative effects, it’s not a source of empty calories, and looks like a better recreational drug in every way. A…

My parents were responsible cigarette smokers. They were not chain smokers or even pack-a-day smokers. My father quit cold turkey when the surgeon general warning came out for tobacco.

I wonder how accurate or fair a comparison my statement makes?

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The mind is part of the body Also contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not heal or help the mind unless perhaps you have methanol poisoning or are in the middle of a panic attack

> The mind is part of the body is it...?

if the mind is a state of consciousness, and damage to the brain damages said consciousness, the mind must be part of the body.

going further, alcohol is interesting in that, in appropriate amounts, it can improve the state of consciousness through a better quality of social interactions, and at the same time, can damage the state of consciousness through poisoning

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Having a fireplace, barbecue, outdoor fire pit, or going camping with a campfire, are all situations where people intentionally choose to engage in activities that cause them to inhale smoke. Those activities might contribute to a healthy lifestyle in the whole. Similarly, social activities that include alcohol consumption can be analyzed as a whole, without the pretense that they can always be made 'dry'. There is n…

Tobacco smoke and fire smoke are generally entirely unrelated from a health perspective. Going to a wine tasting is a decision to drink wine (though if it occured at someone's house rather than a public or commercial facility, I could imagine that the hosts might accomodate a non-drinking partner or something like that).

>Tobacco smoke and fire smoke are generally entirely unrelated from a health perspective.

But not from a scientific perspective.

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