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Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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> After a freedom of information request to the agency for Pfizer’s vaccine data, the FDA offered to release 500 pages a month, a process that would take decades to complete

75 years, actually.

I don't mind trusting what someone says, but I need to be able to verify it.

Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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The BMJ seems to be on good form. First publishing the whistle blower account of pfizer [1], and now this call for raw vaccine trial data.

I commend them on this approach, and can only hope that the vaccines are as safe and effective as we have been told.

[1] https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 - "Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial"

Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-t... has some stuff to say about the author (about 2/3 the way down), including signing a petition doubting that HIV causes AIDS.

> Indeed, Doshi has history of playing footsie with the antivaccine movement, amplifying antivaccine conspiracy theories, downplaying the severity of influenza and thus feeding antivaccine narratives, using sleight-of-hand to downplay the effectiveness of flu vaccines, and generally playing the role of a false skeptic with respect to vaccines. At this point, I can’t help but note that Doshi also once signed a petition “questioning” whether HIV causes AIDS.

Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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It seems there has to be some amendments to rules about releasing raw, anonymized trial data when the state is sponsoring development of the drug. Also, how can Pfizer claim that their "study" ends in 2023? Several hundred million people have already received their vaccine, unaware that it's part of a study where the clinical data is not even accessible to their doctors...

Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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post #6

It seems there has to be some amendments to rules about releasing raw, anonymized trial data when the state is sponsoring development of the drug. Also, how can Pfizer claim that their "study" ends in 2023? Several hundred million people have already received their vaccine, unaware that it's part of a study where the clinical data is not even accessible to their doctors...

> Also, how can Pfizer claim that their "study" ends in 2023?

Long-term studies are common. We still study Tylenol to this day, for example, to monitor for things like "does it interact with newly approved drugs".

Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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It seems there has to be some amendments to rules about releasing raw, anonymized trial data when the state is sponsoring development of the drug. Also, how can Pfizer claim that their "study" ends in 2023? Several hundred million people have already received their vaccine, unaware that it's part of a study where the clinical data is not even accessible to their doctors...

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Re: Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now

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The BMJ seems to be on good form. First publishing the whistle blower account of pfizer [1], and now this call for raw vaccine trial data. I commend them on this approach, and can only hope that the vaccines are as safe and effective as we have been told. [1] https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 - "Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial"

I can only recommend this article about bmj: https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/11/15/wtf-happened-to-t...
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