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No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Counter-point: Alcohol was key in the creation of the United States. "In the drink, a dream; and in the dream, a spark."[1] "...the Founding Fathers despised each other. Like, these bros couldn’t stand the sight of one another and it’s a goddamn miracle our country ever came to be, that’s how much they hated one another."[2] In 1787, two days before they signed off on the Constitution, the 55 delegates to the Constit…

Sit down, John.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#632

Big discussion of original source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882

Comments moved thither. Thanks!

Edit: actually, this submission was posted first, plus the Bloomberg article seems a bit more informative than the press release, so I think we'll merge hither instead.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#635

For everyone complaining about evidence citation, this is just a press release. The actual brief which includes 41 citations is here: https://world-heart-federation.org/wp-content/uploads/WHF-Po...

(the parent comment was originally in reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30009882, which we merged hither)

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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You know what's worse than drinking alcohol? Sitting in a chair all day staring at a screen. Why do we need studies for things we've known for centuries? Drink, eat, exercise, all in moderation. Get outside and move often as possible. It's not rocket science.

Alcohol changes your state of mind which leads to car accidents, abuse and so much more.

To compare that to sitting is stupid.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Although I live in a place where weed is legal, I don’t use it. I enjoy the occasional glass of a nice scotch, though, and I love a good stout or porter beer. This is where it gets a little strange for me: by every metric I can think of, I’d be better off replacing alcohol with weed. There seem to be fewer negative effects, it’s not a source of empty calories, and looks like a better recreational drug in every way. A…

Weed isn't legal where I live however its easy enough to access. A thing i really dislike about weed is in my (and most of my friends) experience its possible to just accidentally get to high and have a panic attack or freak out. While this is possible with drinking, I find its much more difficult especially when drinking beer as I do. It has to be a much more conscious decision for me to get wasted drunk than for me…

A good alternative with similar results is Delta 8. Lower potency and less likely to cause any freak out moments.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why am I forced to choose any or just one? Why do you think alcohol does less harm then any of the others? Currently far, far more children die due to alcohol than the others, and while that's definitely due to availability it's not obvious that wouldn't still be the case if all were legal.

> Why do you think alcohol does less harm then any of the others? A simple test, give each to a baby/small child and see what happens... I lived in a time where babies were given tiny amounts of alcohol for pain relief and it did no harm that I ever heard. I doubt you can say the same for meth.

I believe that the consensus is that it did cause a small amount of harm and there likely are horror stories you never heard, that's why the practice stopped, but giving children meth is called adderal.

Children also had regular access to small amounts of coke and heroin probably in your grandparents or great grandparents life, remember Coca Cola and laudanum was used for teething. You've never heard of harm from that. Your test says all of them pass.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mind is part of the body Also contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not heal or help the mind unless perhaps you have methanol poisoning or are in the middle of a panic attack

> The mind is part of the body is it...?

Yes, the mind is an emergent property of the networks of the brain.
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