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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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The correct answer here is takeout + rclone, right ? We're actually writing a detailed HOWTO about this workflow, mostly centered on gmail since you can't interface with gmail (directly) using rclone. Regardless, it is rclone that (in my opinion) makes this quite a bit less impactful.

What use is my email on S3?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Good luck with that. For home accounts, you’re tied to GoDaddy. Or rather Microsoft via GoDaddy? Who knows. I would NEVER use GoDaddy after reading various experiences around the net. Also, no aliases. Are multiple domains even possible?

Their help admittedly is professional-tier centric and suggests that if you can edit your DNS record to add the "I own this" file they give you, you can use any domain. Do they explicitly not support this for the family edition? I guess I'll have to test it with a free month and a spare domain.

I've just moved a small business (25-50 users) off of GoDaddy 365.

Every horror story about other GoDaddy products is equally applicable to their 365 offering.

Their support takes hours to get to, and has hung up on us multiple times when the problem is anything but wanting to purchase more services, putting you back at step 1.

They force you into their own god awful auth instead of Microsofts usual OAuth and it breaks so many things, making you sign in constantly and you can't even use 2FA.

For anyone reading this, never use GoDaddy 365, I am so glad to be free of it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I have four active email users in my free "legacy edition" vanity domain workspace. I am not willing to pay USD4x6x12 per year to have this continue to work. Looking around for the most affordable alternative for four active email accounts brings me to... Microsoft! Microsoft 365 Family Edition. Like a lot of salary drones I use Microsoft products at work, so I get a discount. It is sad to be paying for full Microsof…

Apple's iCloud+ is cheaper. I pay $1/mo ($12/year) and that covers a few domains and a handful of email addresses with 50GB of storage. $3/mo ($36/year) will get you 200GB of storage and a family plan that lets you set up different accounts with different logins. I think Microsoft 365 is a great value if you're looking for everything it offers - it includes Office, 1TB of storage per user, etc. Oh, one downside of Mi…

A quick google suggests that you can use/administer iCloud through the web and can access email through IMAP (though not POP).

But can it do four different users (Apple IDs) all getting email through the same vanity domain?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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If you use GSuite Legacy for personal email, you would have the choice of switching to a paid plan, or migrating your email to a personal account (or any other email hosting provider.) If you use a personal GMail account, there is no change here that applies to you.

> or migrating your email to a personal account There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible. Of course you can move to a non-google host, just by changing your MX records or whatever.

> There is no such migration plan offered, it's unclear how to do it, or if it's possible.

I think you would just create a gmail account, then add the G Suite account in the settings of the new gmail account so it will download all of the G Suite email through POP3 or IMAP.

Definitely give yourself a few days for this before the cutoff -- I've had gmail pull years worth of email from another account and it will eventually hit a rate limit and go very slow.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I would have no problems with this if Google just provided a way to convert GSuite accounts into personal Google accounts. In fact, I'd prefer to pay if it means no ads/data gathering in GMail. I've lived in this obnoxious state for a long time where my Google account (with an email address that is nearly as old as Google itself so I'm not switching) sometimes works, sometimes doesn't (and even sometimes works then s…

park your vanity domain on some provider that gives you free or cheap email forwarding. (cloudflare is promoting their offering at the top of this thread) make a plain old google account with a new address. forward your old address to the new one. then set the old address as the send address in your new gmail account. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #841

I would have no problems with this if Google just provided a way to convert GSuite accounts into personal Google accounts. In fact, I'd prefer to pay if it means no ads/data gathering in GMail. I've lived in this obnoxious state for a long time where my Google account (with an email address that is nearly as old as Google itself so I'm not switching) sometimes works, sometimes doesn't (and even sometimes works then s…

park your vanity domain on some provider that gives you free or cheap email forwarding. (cloudflare is promoting their offering at the top of this thread) make a plain old google account with a new address. forward your old address to the new one. then set the old address as the send address in your new gmail account. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en

Unfortunately that means losing all of my purchases and other data associated with my original account.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Anyone got any experience and tips for migrating a lot gmail e-Mails to iCloud mail? I pay for the 2TB plan with iCloud and I don’t want to pay Google for custom email addresses for all of my family. iCloud mail allows a custom domain now so that’s my migration plan.

I'm doing that right now. Run Google Takeout, which exports an mbox file, then import into Mail (on your Mac). Then gradually copy over emails to your iCloud inbox.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #814

I have four active email users in my free "legacy edition" vanity domain workspace. I am not willing to pay USD4x6x12 per year to have this continue to work. Looking around for the most affordable alternative for four active email accounts brings me to... Microsoft! Microsoft 365 Family Edition. Like a lot of salary drones I use Microsoft products at work, so I get a discount. It is sad to be paying for full Microsof…

I was subscribed to paid g suite for more than 2 years and only used custom domain email. When Apple released iCloud+ [0] or whatever it is called, I immediately migrated there and am really happy with it. You will probably need to subscribe to some iCloud plan and have an apple device. But if you already use those, you are good to go. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514

Does iCloud+ support wildcard catch-alls?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #791

If you interested in Cloudflare's Email Routing https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/ we're mass enabling the zones that have asked for Beta access and will be going GA soon. Email me at celso@cf if you can't wait; we'll try to prioritize.

Wonderful timing! I already have one domain approved and can confirm it's an awesome tool thanks :) ps. I suspect that this will provide people a very simple way to migrate to using free Gmail as their email solution. (though in my case, I've taken the free Gsuite product closure as an incentive to fully de-Google).

Agreed. Time for me to move to something that I completely control myself and can keep it running as long as I want.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #833

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I find ~$1000 a year for just email accounts for three humans to be egregious (the non-humans are service accounts for things like NAS, printer, or TeamCity/Jenkins).

If all you need from GSuite is email, then hosting yourself with https://mailinabox.email/ is an alternative that worked for me, until I realised that https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/ on a yearly plan was cheaper than the cheapest hetzner VM I could get for hosting it myself.

Leaving a $6 per user Google service which includes email for a $5 per user Fastmail service which is just email would be an odd cost-saving measure.
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