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Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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> No customers experienced a loss of funds. I mean, there's still plenty of money in other people's accounts they can use to cover the losses. Does anybody know whether the regulatory regime they operate under is sound? If a US bank lost this kind of customer money in a theft, I'd have some confidence that the the FDIC and the Federal Reserve would make sure they actually had all the money they were claiming they had…

Please explain how they can use the money from other people account to cover the losses. If i had a account there, i wouldn't allow them to use my money to cover this.

Ever heard of Mt. Gox?

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No! Coinbase is a large exchange...

I don’t think that’s true..bigger than Binance? By what metric?

Coinbase doesn't have to be bigger than Binance to be "a large exchange" - we're not talking about "largest exchange" if you read the message.

It's definitely more established than crypto.com though.

Do you think crypto.com is larger than Binance?

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Venture capital used to be about placing small, diverse bets on a lot promising startups - everybody in the process was trying to make the world a better place Since about 2018, VC game changed - now it's about brazenly placing massive bets on a small set of startups of increasingly questionable utility, using the funds and clout to ram their way through into monopoly positions. Not a speck of morality involved anymo…

> everybody in the process was trying to make the world a better place have you actually met any VCs?

I laughed out loud when I read that statement. Holy moly the delusion is strong.

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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I don’t think that’s true..bigger than Binance? By what metric?

Coinbase doesn't have to be bigger than Binance to be "a large exchange" - we're not talking about "largest exchange" if you read the message. It's definitely more established than crypto.com though. Do you think crypto.com is larger than Binance?

Sorry completely misread, I thought you were saying it's the biggest

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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By the numbers, around $34 million in funds is affected, mostly Ethereum. They say in the press release that they prevented most of the unauthorized withdrawals and reimbursed the remainder, but it’s unclear how much they had to pay for reimbursements. For context, this is the startup that has been using Matt Damon as it’s face.

A couple of years ago crypto.com used Matt Blaze as its face :P

https://web.archive.org/web/20170611024100/http://www.crypto...

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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> No customers experienced a loss of funds. I mean, there's still plenty of money in other people's accounts they can use to cover the losses. Does anybody know whether the regulatory regime they operate under is sound? If a US bank lost this kind of customer money in a theft, I'd have some confidence that the the FDIC and the Federal Reserve would make sure they actually had all the money they were claiming they had…

Please explain how they can use the money from other people account to cover the losses. If i had a account there, i wouldn't allow them to use my money to cover this.

This is exactly what Bitfinex did back in 2016. They were 'hacked' for $72M, or about 36% of their assets at the time. They logged in, and removed 36% of everyone's account balances and replaced them with IOU tokens. [1] In fact it was believed that Coinbase was a Bitfinex customer at that time - and that they were one of the few accounts not actually given a haircut because I assume their lawyers mumbled something about 'fraudulent conversion.' [2]

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bitfinex-hacked-hongkong/...

[2] https://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fraudulent-conversion

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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Easy: imagine one of the poor sobs decides to withdraw, hop a bit of creative accounting and your money is borrowed to pay for the withdrawal. It s not each of the user individually seeing their balance go down, it s the company lying even more about its ability to liquidate all accounts. Your number on their html page they graciously present to you will go unchanged. It s not a new phenomenon, every bank does it, ex…

Also, banks are insured by the government (FDIC) and heavily regulated to reduce the risk of failure. Crypto exchanges are not, which is why they seem to fail about as often as a 19th century bank would.

Being insured by the gov for up to a certain amount will not solve the default issue (this is what crypto.com is pretending with their eerily similar worldwide protection thing), it was made to save poor people from complete ruin, not protect your savings.

If you re retiring and expect the bank to be good on a million $ worth of some sort of instrument, you're fucked minus 250k.

And this is totally fine: you re compensated for a low risk of default when you lend to your "savings account" and must accept this could happen. There s no way to make money waiting doing nothing risklessly. Creeptards know that well, they all in on wind, there s no worse risk.

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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> No customers experienced a loss of funds. I mean, there's still plenty of money in other people's accounts they can use to cover the losses. Does anybody know whether the regulatory regime they operate under is sound? If a US bank lost this kind of customer money in a theft, I'd have some confidence that the the FDIC and the Federal Reserve would make sure they actually had all the money they were claiming they had…

Please explain how they can use the money from other people account to cover the losses. If i had a account there, i wouldn't allow them to use my money to cover this.

This... Is literally how banks work.

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Please explain how they can use the money from other people account to cover the losses. If i had a account there, i wouldn't allow them to use my money to cover this.

This... Is literally how banks work.

Banks do not work this way. Banks have insurance policies, both private and federal, that would cover the losses.

Re: Crypto.com accounts had unauthorized withdrawals

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we don’t know if CDC funding is VC

It's irrelevant what the funding comes from or how you define it. VC, PE and Hedge funds all have fairly loose definitions. But, someone is funding it because it sure ain't coming from profits.

what’s your analysis on their profits
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