I know of a man who had a shot of 96 percent alcohol (192 proof) every single day and died at the age of 96.
No post body was provided.
No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation
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#112>Studies have shown that even small amounts of alcohol can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular disease I've never drunk alcohol before. Is it worth never having it? Does one drink really ruin your body that much.
Disclaimer, not a scientist, just a (3 year) sober alcoholic
One drink once in your life is not going to harm you. I think this is talking more about the "moderate" drinking of 1-2 servings per week.
That said, I've been down the whole alcohol path before and it ain't good for me. I don't know of any time since I've gotten sober that I thought back and said "Man, I wish I had been drunk for that"
It's an unnecessary risk. Maybe you'll do fine trying alcohol, maybe you'll become an addict and ruin your life. I don't think you're going to enhance your life by trying alcohol.
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#113Of course it isn’t. Drink water. Unfortunately some people believe they can’t enjoy themselves without alcohol. It’s curious: - babies have fun without drinking - kids have fun without drinking - some teens have fun without drinking Then at some point some people, as adults, feel like they have to drink to enjoy themselves? I wonder what happened. Edit: explicitly clarifying that I’m only talking about some people he…
My take on it is that as adults you mature and begin to abide by all the rules of society. Alcohol lowers your inhibitions and "allows" you to act like you were as a child.
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#114Interesting how there's a major shift in the knowledge about risks of things like sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. And it usually turns out there was an industry group involved in sort of a coverup. The lesson here is to take any health claims or dismissal or risks with a grain of salt when there's a big industry behind it.
I always scoffed at people who believed "a glass of wine every night is good for you." It seems pretty obvious that ingesting literal poison every day is not good for you.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
While we're at it, let's de-stigmatize the abuse of substances and treat it like a real mental health issue. Literally everyone involved in the treatment and support of substance abuse does that, whether it's treatment facilities or social groups like AA and Al-Anon. As they should. Every family I know has been affected in one way or another by drug or alcohol addiction and has firsthand knowledge that substance abus…
Have 1000 people tell their boss they need a month of paid leave to deal with an acute cancer treatment or recover from a kidney transplant. Have 1000 people tell their boss they need a month of paid leave to deal with alcohol addiction. Measure the immediate reactions and future performance review and employment outcomes of the two groups. Do you expect them to be the same as each other? I don’t and I think it comes…
Apples and bowling balls. As I said in another comment:
While substance abuse is an illness and should be treated as such, it's not leukemia or muscular dystrophy. It requires an active participant to make a concerted effort to obtain and abuse an addictive, destructive substance. So it's no surprise that substance abuse might not be given the same level of sympathy.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know, most (Americans) drink little or no alcohol. The cult of alcohol is certain they cannot live without it, which is part of the problem perhaps. But most do live without it. And are not eating bugs.
The NIH itself says different: * 85.6 percent of people ages 18 and older reported that they drank alcohol at some point in their lifetime * 69.5 percent reported that they drank in the past year * 54.9 percent reported that they drank in the past month https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sh...
54.9 percent reported that they drank in the past month
Consider this: I am in the group that can say "they drank in the last month." It is also simultaneously true that I "drink little or no alcohol" (by any reasonable standard).
How can that be? Well, if you took my last 12 months worth of alcohol consumption and calculated my "average drinks per month" the number would round to 0. So yes, I do drink, and by happenstance it happens that I've had a drink in the last month. But I think that easily qualifies as "little or no alcohol".
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#117When they say the evidence is clear, you have to ask, where's the evidence? Did they have a randomized control trial I don't know of?
Evidence? Didn't you see those dirty MGD bottles next to the broken window on page 2?
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#118Don't worry, in 5-10 years it will be good for you again. I still remember being lectured in school on the food pyramid and the importance of getting your 8-10 servings of grains a day.
> Don't worry, in 5-10 years it will be good for you again. I don't know about that, it it looking more like Alcohol is heading down the path of cigarettes where the more unbiased funding and studies that are done, the worse it appears. There have been several convincing reviews[1] recently that showed an increased risk of cancer at any dosage. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32584303/ (First one I could find eas…
Yeah, it’s really a myth that science is changing so much.
You can look at dietary recommendations from the 70s, and they’re fine. Eat your plants and don’t eat garbage. The food pyramid was more a product of lobbying than science. The doctors advice wasn't that bad, although there would be less knowledge of the dangers of refined carbs.
People want it to be true that the doctors don’t know what they’re doing, but it’s not (or these are bad examples of).
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#119No amount of walking outside can guarantee not being hit by a car.
Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation
#120Interesting how there's a major shift in the knowledge about risks of things like sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. And it usually turns out there was an industry group involved in sort of a coverup. The lesson here is to take any health claims or dismissal or risks with a grain of salt when there's a big industry behind it.
One of my favorite examples of this is how coconut oil is advertised all over youtube by thousands of influencers as a superfood that must be a part of a healthy diet. (Especially since it's hardly an oil in my opinion -- it's partially solid at room temperature) There's absolutely no reliable evidence that coconut oil has any beneficial effects on the human body, and I really don't see why anybody would believe that…
Same goes for agave syrup and other health fads.