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Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by pkulak » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

mmastrac wrote: post #11

Alcohol is one of the worst "drugs" on a personal/societal harm scale - if we're going to tolerate this at large, we should probably consider legalizing everything else that's less harmful to at least be consistent. While we're at it, let's de-stigmatize the abuse of substances and treat it like a real mental health issue.

Do you really think it's worse than the current wave of synthetic opioids? I think I could even make a good case for cigarettes being worse than alcohol.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by jdlyga » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

Interesting how there's a major shift in the knowledge about risks of things like sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. And it usually turns out there was an industry group involved in sort of a coverup. The lesson here is to take any health claims or dismissal or risks with a grain of salt when there's a big industry behind it.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by ct0 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

Funny that they're saying this now because fermented drinks used to protect people from health issues when the water supply was not clean enough to drink.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by FredPret » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

slackfan wrote: post #12

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I took up regular drinking about 15 years ago based on the then-prevailing medical advice to have one or two a day for your heart.

It’s important to give people correct medical information. I’m now off the wagon completely.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by footlose_3815 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

slackfan wrote: post #12

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Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by tasha0663 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:43 PM UTC

heyitsguay wrote: post #15

slackfan wrote: post #12

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Less "no fun allowed" generic conspiracy stuff, more "hey, these are the consequences to some of that fun, please keep them in mind as you establish the risk level you're comfortable with".

The advocacy tips at the end of the brief are shockingly anti-fun.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by WithinReason » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

It's not good for the heart, but is it good for the soul?

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by maskil » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

I know of a man who had a shot of 96 percent alcohol (192 proof) every single day and died at the age of 96.

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Post by stefan_ » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

slackfan wrote: post #12

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Alcohol is fun like cigarettes are cool. It's marketing.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Post by happytoexplain » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

slackfan wrote: post #12

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I'm not getting that kind of attitude from this document. It seems to just be a holistic counterpoint to the "common knowledge" that "a little bit of alcohol can be good for the heart". What is this intense negativity you're sarcastically paraphrasing?