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Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by vba616 »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #390
vba616 wrote: post #348

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>or that Julian Assange reports to Putin Ah...this has been debunked? The story so far as I know is that "multiple US intelligence agencies" told Congress that (in 2016) people working for the Russian government hacked the DNC and provided the emails to Wikileaks. Wikileaks didn't reveal its source, but Assange said "no, nope, it definitely wasn't the Russian government, no way". Mueller proceeded to indict a lot of…

> Ah...this has been debunked? > The story so far as I know is that "multiple US intelligence agencies" told Congress that (in 2016) people working for the Russian government hacked the DNC and provided the emails to Wikileaks. Assange is the one publishing the secrets of "US intelligence agencies," so they don't like him very much. Given this conflict of interest and the knowledge that they'd never be asked to provi…

>"Sources lacking in credibility make claim without evidence"

Sure, if you like, there is no need to debunk the claims. Let's not bicker and argue about that, as I certainly have no idea. I still, perhaps pedantically, would claim that "no need to debunk" is different from "has been debunked".

Regardless, the breathtaking size of this isolated bubble of disinformation is worthy of note.

Four bubbles I see in the original comment: Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, people who believe false things about Rittenhouse and then there is...

   ...most of the US government, media, and Democratic party.
It's like saying a typical American breakfast is orange juice, cereal, and an aircraft carrier.

Maybe it's true! But it sure raises a lot of questions, and something funny is going on if people don't even agree that one item in the list stands out.

Something even funnier is going on if people get mad at you for noticing. People who make fun of conspiracy theories. Remember that's where this started, a comment on how prone people are to believing in conspiracies.

You can't trust the establishment! Still, big conspiracy.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by neop1x »

mpeg wrote: post #254
pjc50 wrote: post #64

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You can't really put content on the blockchain, that costs a surprising amount because of all the proof-of-waste. What happens is people put the content on a host and the URL on the blockchain. I suppose in theory it could be kept in IPFS, but few NFTs seem to bother with that.

The idea that people put the URL in the blockchain is misleading and people keep repeating it as a mantra. Yes, you put a URL on the blockchain but it's almost always a URL to the ipfs protocol e.g. ipfs://QmVc6zuAneKJzicnJpfrqCH9gSy6bz54JhcypfJYhGUFQu This identifier is a base58 encoding of a sha256 hash that points to the content. It doesn't actually tell you what host to use to find the content, that's completely…

Except ipfs content disappears if no one is pinning it. And you can find IPs of hosts which are pinning it. Yes there is FileCoin but there are minimum and maximum file size and contract duration limits. So someone has to periodically check pins, contracts and keep purchasing new FileCoin contracts to keep it online.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by mpeg »

neop1x wrote: post #392
mpeg wrote: post #254

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The idea that people put the URL in the blockchain is misleading and people keep repeating it as a mantra. Yes, you put a URL on the blockchain but it's almost always a URL to the ipfs protocol e.g. ipfs://QmVc6zuAneKJzicnJpfrqCH9gSy6bz54JhcypfJYhGUFQu This identifier is a base58 encoding of a sha256 hash that points to the content. It doesn't actually tell you what host to use to find the content, that's completely…

Except ipfs content disappears if no one is pinning it. And you can find IPs of hosts which are pinning it. Yes there is FileCoin but there are minimum and maximum file size and contract duration limits. So someone has to periodically check pins, contracts and keep purchasing new FileCoin contracts to keep it online.

Yes, true, I don't think ipfs is meant to be censorship-resistant though, so finding the IP of hosts doesn't seem like a big deal for the project goals.

My point was more that the NFT metadata itself could still be usable x years in the future when another protocol has replaced ipfs – it would just have to make the files findable by the existing hash.

The biggest potential risk would be if sha256 becomes broken and finding collisions is trivial.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by ryan_lane »

vmception wrote: post #378
ryan_lane wrote: post #372

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A lot of claims being made here without any actual proof. You need a bank account to buy cryptocurrencies. You also need fiat money to buy it. In the US at least, you need to be KYC'd to buy it from an exchange with fiat. It's really tiring hearing propaganda like this, that easily falls apart under even a little bit of scrutiny. Like "banking the unbanked", it's lies being told that try to sell people on how cryptoc…

Earning cryptocurrency does not require a bank account or KYC. Read that again until you understand it and tell me why you don't understand that. The whole post distinguished the difference between buying versus earning. If you dont get that yet, you’re in the wrong place.

This place is about critical thinking, and skepticism, especially around wild and unlikely claims, is part of that.

The point is that this story is almost certainly a fabrication, especially since it has wild claims of teenagers making small fortunes. There's no evidence such a situation has happened, and it's extremely unlikely that it's common enough to be a thing we need to be concerned with.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by vmception »

ryan_lane wrote: post #394
vmception wrote: post #378

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Earning cryptocurrency does not require a bank account or KYC. Read that again until you understand it and tell me why you don't understand that. The whole post distinguished the difference between buying versus earning. If you dont get that yet, you’re in the wrong place.

This place is about critical thinking, and skepticism, especially around wild and unlikely claims, is part of that. The point is that this story is almost certainly a fabrication, especially since it has wild claims of teenagers making small fortunes. There's no evidence such a situation has happened, and it's extremely unlikely that it's common enough to be a thing we need to be concerned with.

What evidence would satisfy you?

How common does it need to be to matter? Several thousand teenagers with six or seven figures of liquid crypto assets is still over a billion dollars deciding if a new product or service gets off the ground.

Why do you think you need to be concerned?

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by ryan_lane »

vmception wrote: post #395
ryan_lane wrote: post #394

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This place is about critical thinking, and skepticism, especially around wild and unlikely claims, is part of that. The point is that this story is almost certainly a fabrication, especially since it has wild claims of teenagers making small fortunes. There's no evidence such a situation has happened, and it's extremely unlikely that it's common enough to be a thing we need to be concerned with.

What evidence would satisfy you? How common does it need to be to matter? Several thousand teenagers with six or seven figures of liquid crypto assets is still over a billion dollars deciding if a new product or service gets off the ground. Why do you think you need to be concerned?

Where is the evidence for these teenagers? I mean, there's no evidence at all from what I can tell, except for the op saying it's "a real thing I totally didn't make up to give you FOMO".

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Pasorrijer wrote: post #225
sp332 wrote: post #193

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It's not only jargon, because a lot of it is used as watchwords or shiboleths.

I was referring specifically to the example above, or at least the jargon I've seen used. And EVERY community is going to have specific language or "Slang". I mean, even the specific resume example above simply translates to "Worked as a Product Manager on moderately successful project, worked as a Project Manager on random project, consulted with highly successful marketing firm and extremely successfully and profit…

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Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Post by vmception »

ryan_lane wrote: post #396
vmception wrote: post #395

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What evidence would satisfy you? How common does it need to be to matter? Several thousand teenagers with six or seven figures of liquid crypto assets is still over a billion dollars deciding if a new product or service gets off the ground. Why do you think you need to be concerned?

Where is the evidence for these teenagers? I mean, there's no evidence at all from what I can tell, except for the op saying it's "a real thing I totally didn't make up to give you FOMO".

Second time asking, what would you like to see?

If I gave you a screenshot from an instagram comment, what would your rebuttal be?

Would you like an interview with that teen?

Would a discord server full of them satisfy you?

Do you want them to sign addresses with high balances to show they control it? Because thats not going to happen.

The same issue would apply to any segment of the population. Nobody is going to do any of that so how would you prove it for any segment?

If you can go make money in crypto by simply showing up to a chat room looking for workers, but aren't interested in doing so, think about who is. Think about who is then trading these juvenile things. Think about which colorful sensory assaulting NFTs are a hit and which aren't. Match that up with the admissions of people saying "yeah I'm a teen and accumulated and bunch of crypto and flip NFTs to accumulate more". At a certain point there is a consensus you can just rely upon, for your own participation in the economy. That's whats happening here.

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