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Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:23 AM UTC

rosndo wrote: post #17

andreinwald wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the importance of attachments. But it's the only way to make email hosting cheap or free, bc attachments occupy 99,9% of disk space.

Since when is disk space the bottleneck for email hosting? Do you not intend to offer features like search?

Disk space - is most popular limitation on email hosting plans now. Gmail 15 GB + ADs model, Zoho: 5 GB.

Mail search - will be offered. But old emails w/o attachments.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:51 AM UTC

doctoboggan wrote: post #8

I would register if there was a storage limit and you were prompted to manually delete attachments when you are nearing it. I’d rather do it myself and save what’s needed that risk losing important documents.

Good idea! Thanks.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:53 AM UTC

dym_sh wrote: post #20

whats the point of unlimited storage if stuff that needs it – gets deleted anyways? mega-silos have 3 major points: reliability, convenience, and network effect. get 2 of them, add privacy – and its a viable alternative. ---- but no, not personally – i run my own vps with poste.io install – you asking the wrong crowd.

IMHO people don't need most of old attachments, and it creates possibility for ADs-based service.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by rosndo » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:05 PM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #21

rosndo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when is disk space the bottleneck for email hosting? Do you not intend to offer features like search?

Disk space - is most popular limitation on email hosting plans now. Gmail 15 GB + ADs model, Zoho: 5 GB. Mail search - will be offered. But old emails w/o attachments.

Disk space being the most popular limitation does not imply that it is a real bottleneck.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:39 PM UTC

rosndo wrote: post #15

Yandex already offers this for free, but without disappearing attachments. You can sign up right now :)

No longer so https://360.yandex.ru/business/tariff?from=landing

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by beardyw » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:39 PM UTC

I just use redirection to a standard Gmail account. It works.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by sofixa » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:58 PM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #25

rosndo wrote: post #15

Yandex already offers this for free, but without disappearing attachments. You can sign up right now :)

No longer so https://360.yandex.ru/business/tariff?from=landing

At 129 RUB(~1.50 EUR)/month, it isn't free but it's drastically cheaper than O365 or G Suite. However i wonder how often it would be blocked by useless "block all Russia and China" firewall rules.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by sh4un » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:59 PM UTC

You can't have your cake and eat it to. If you want free, build it yourself. Lots of guides out there.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by newscracker » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:40 PM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #23

dym_sh wrote: post #20

whats the point of unlimited storage if stuff that needs it – gets deleted anyways? mega-silos have 3 major points: reliability, convenience, and network effect. get 2 of them, add privacy – and its a viable alternative. ---- but no, not personally – i run my own vps with poste.io install – you asking the wrong crowd.

IMHO people don't need most of old attachments, and it creates possibility for ADs-based service.

I disagree completely on this. People get bank statements, investment transaction statements and other important information as attachments, and they may need to get those years later from emails (it may not be easy to get from the original source and they may have lost their local copies).

Like it or not, e-mail is a document storage medium for most people.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by voisin » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:45 PM UTC

cplli wrote: post #16

andreinwald wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you ok with G Suite/Zoho/etc prices?

For my personal email I use the new iCloud+ service, as I already had a plan and they have the "Hide my email" feature which is a plus. For company email: Fastmail. They're professional, I trust them, the price value ratio is good. Can't complain

What did you use before? How did you find the transition? I am on gSuite and would move over but all the ways of getting past emails up to iCloud seemed messy.