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Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 10:53 AM UTC

em-bee wrote: post #7

andreinwald wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old emails will be saved. But without attachments. Is it okay for you?

any system that deletes stuff automatically without oversight is dangerous and can lead to critical loss of data. the only time it is ok is when it is backups that are superseded by new backups, or a trash storage where i put things manually, and even there i prefer to empty the trash manually too. but this is just how i am used to working. i realize that i accept messages in irc disappearing if i don't log them too…

Thank you for your detailed opinion!

I understand the importance of attachments. But it's the only way to make email hosting cheap or free, bc attachments occupy 99,9% of disk space.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by thunderrabbit » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:00 AM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #10

marcos100 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, a lot of times, the attachment is more important than the text of the e-mail.

I understand the importance of attachments. But it's the only way to make email hosting cheap or free, bc attachments occupy 99,9% of disk space.

Yes, email attachments take up a lot of space.

But anyone who tries to auto-delete my attachments will never get my patronage.

Why do you want to cripple email to create a free service? This seems like a race to the bottom, with very little upside for you.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by cplli » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:00 AM UTC

No. I would much rather have a paid plan, with limits. Nothing is free, and an ads model service isn't one I'd move email to.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:03 AM UTC

cplli wrote: post #13

No. I would much rather have a paid plan, with limits. Nothing is free, and an ads model service isn't one I'd move email to.

Are you ok with G Suite/Zoho/etc prices?

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by rosndo » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:03 AM UTC

Yandex already offers this for free, but without disappearing attachments. You can sign up right now :)

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by cplli » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:06 AM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #14

cplli wrote: post #13

No. I would much rather have a paid plan, with limits. Nothing is free, and an ads model service isn't one I'd move email to.

Are you ok with G Suite/Zoho/etc prices?

For my personal email I use the new iCloud+ service, as I already had a plan and they have the "Hide my email" feature which is a plus.

For company email: Fastmail. They're professional, I trust them, the price value ratio is good. Can't complain

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by rosndo » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:08 AM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #10

marcos100 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, a lot of times, the attachment is more important than the text of the e-mail.

I understand the importance of attachments. But it's the only way to make email hosting cheap or free, bc attachments occupy 99,9% of disk space.

Since when is disk space the bottleneck for email hosting? Do you not intend to offer features like search?

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by andreinwald » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:10 AM UTC

thunderrabbit wrote: post #12

andreinwald wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand the importance of attachments. But it's the only way to make email hosting cheap or free, bc attachments occupy 99,9% of disk space.

Yes, email attachments take up a lot of space. But anyone who tries to auto-delete my attachments will never get my patronage. Why do you want to cripple email to create a free service? This seems like a race to the bottom, with very little upside for you.

Not everyone is willing to pay for mail service for custom domains. Paid email services already costs near or below disc storage prise.

Limiting attachments - the only possible way for free ADs-based alternative.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by maccard » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:14 AM UTC

andreinwald wrote: post #14

cplli wrote: post #13

No. I would much rather have a paid plan, with limits. Nothing is free, and an ads model service isn't one I'd move email to.

Are you ok with G Suite/Zoho/etc prices?

Not OP but yes. Perfectly happy with the prices, and would be willing to pay more if the featureset provided. The only thing that keeps me on gmail is the inertia of my existing email address.

Re: Ask HN: Free mail service for custom domains - G Suite alternative

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Post by dym_sh » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 11:18 AM UTC

whats the point of unlimited storage if stuff that needs it – gets deleted anyways?

mega-silos have 3 major points: reliability, convenience, and network effect.

get 2 of them, add privacy – and its a viable alternative.

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but no, not personally – i run my own vps with poste.io install – you asking the wrong crowd.