I started looking at all of these (dendron, obsidian, etc.) and in the end set up vimwiki with Markdown and have a reasonable setup that even works on an iPad (via a-Shell’s vim).
Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
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Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#102Honest question: Are "wiki notes" useful?
With other words, are notes in Roam/Obsidian/Logseq/Joplin/Dendron useful on the long term? Is the graph nature of notes a "plus" or just a distraction? Do you query your notes in a way that the results are more helpful than using a "flat wiki" (one or few text/markdown files)?
I use a "flat wiki" or despite not using org-mode, I believe it may be customized to "god-mode" _IF_ you take (plenty of) time to do it. "Wiki notes", by the other hand, seem a waste of time but probably I didn't understand them yet.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#103Honest question: Are "wiki notes" useful? With other words, are notes in Roam/Obsidian/Logseq/Joplin/Dendron useful on the long term? Is the graph nature of notes a "plus" or just a distraction? Do you query your notes in a way that the results are more helpful than using a "flat wiki" (one or few text/markdown files)? I use a "flat wiki" or despite not using org-mode, I believe it may be customized to "god-mode" _IF…
The number of potential links in a graph of n vertices scales like O(n^2). That does not mean that the actual number of links in the knowledge base should scale like O(n^2). However, it could mean that the overhead work to maintaining and building the connections in the knowledge base becomes unbearable. That is, the solution is not saving time anymore. Solutions like these need, imo, really good link prediction solutions to make it easier to manage them.
Are any of these personal knowledge base solutions offering link prediction as a feature to alleviate this problem?
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#104Honest question: Are "wiki notes" useful? With other words, are notes in Roam/Obsidian/Logseq/Joplin/Dendron useful on the long term? Is the graph nature of notes a "plus" or just a distraction? Do you query your notes in a way that the results are more helpful than using a "flat wiki" (one or few text/markdown files)? I use a "flat wiki" or despite not using org-mode, I believe it may be customized to "god-mode" _IF…
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Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#105Two must have feature of personal knowledge management app for me are:
1) Pasting web page excerpts with non-text resources (images, animations) included as a copy (and not just as a url reference that might not be avaliable anymore in the future).
2) Quality full text search (across all notes or just a sub-section)
Many knowledge management solutions have trouble with these two, so they are the first things that I usually test.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#106Honest question: Are "wiki notes" useful? With other words, are notes in Roam/Obsidian/Logseq/Joplin/Dendron useful on the long term? Is the graph nature of notes a "plus" or just a distraction? Do you query your notes in a way that the results are more helpful than using a "flat wiki" (one or few text/markdown files)? I use a "flat wiki" or despite not using org-mode, I believe it may be customized to "god-mode" _IF…
> are notes in Roam/Obsidian/Logseq/Joplin/Dendron useful on the long term?
Very useful but the UX is very far from perfect. I would change/add dozens things in Obsidian. I also hate storing notes in a tree hierarchy - a very annoying overhead. I want it to be a freeform graph only with no taxonomy requiring a note to be located in a single specific place.
What I actually want is an open-source (fundamentally extensible but not necessarily free - I would pay up to $100 one-time if I really like it and probably donate more once it becomes an integral part of my life) offline sqlite-backed hybrid of Notion and Obsidian.
The most important feature I miss in Obsidian (as long as it is file system based) is a second file tree - dragging a note file to a distant (not fitting in the screen) place in one panel is painful.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#107I currently use Evernote, but am feeling the limitations. It's just become slow. E.g. time between opening app on phone to being able to take a note > 10s.
I've grudgingly switched to just using flat lists in my phone's pre-installed text only note taking app.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#108I worry that the attempt to impose a schema on one's knowledge isn't that useful, and will run into natural obstacles in the same was as ontolgy-building (CyC/OpenCyc). The real world doesn't have a consistent schema.
I don't want to engage in the busy-work of imposing an unstable schema on my knowledge. I want to ask my AI familiar to give me a list of all titles of articles I've read related to reverse engineering, say.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you live in the Apple ecosystem, Agenda(1) could be just the right tool for you. I also very much like their pricing schema(2), more apps should do it like this! 1. https://www.agenda.com/ 2. https://drewmccormack.medium.com/a-cash-cow-is-on-the-agenda...
Agenda is pretty awesome, but I worry about getting my data out of it enough that it’s become a no-go for me.
You can export whole projects as one-file markdown (or HTML, RTF), worst case being having to go through every project, exporting and splitting the file up (by a script), or turn the agenda folder somewhere in ~/Library (contains bunch of json) into something usable via script, but I agree, it lacks a reasonable solution for getting it all out at once.
Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code
#110I find having separate source and render view for notes (the way it is in Dendron) a huge turn-off. Wasting twice the screen space is no a thing I would accept in a "second brain" tool (I would accept this in a content authoring tool though). Obsidian and Typora feel way better in this aspect.