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Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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> " When people meet a great leader, they often say, “She made me feel like I was the only person in the room.” Imagine giving that type of complete attention to everything you do—and making that thing the only thing in the room. " "Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." ― Alan Watts. (In the sense that physically doing…

> Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes But if you're ascribing a higher meaning to the act is it still Zen? Maybe true Zen would be not even knowing it existed in the first place.

Very zen (and not zen).

I’ve said too much.

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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> " When people meet a great leader, they often say, “She made me feel like I was the only person in the room.” Imagine giving that type of complete attention to everything you do—and making that thing the only thing in the room. " "Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." ― Alan Watts. (In the sense that physically doing…

I don't dislike Alan Watts, but by his own admission he is an entertainer. If you're actually interested in zen the best place to start is with the texts: 大道無門 The Great Way is gateless, 千差有路 Approached in a thousand ways. 透得此關 Once past this checkpoint 乾坤獨歩 You stride through the universe. https://sacred-texts.com/bud/zen/mumonkan.htm

Alan Watts never proclaimed to be a Buddhist. This anecdote provides some insight into what traditional zen teachers thought of him:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/qrvk2i/comment/hk...

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not very familiar with the cult, but this just seems like regular self-help advice. Could someone explain how this relates to a sex cult(based on the wikipedia article)?

> In 1998, Raniere and Nancy Salzman founded NXIVM, a personal development company offering "Executive Success Programs" (ESP) and a range of techniques for self-improvement The leader used all sorts of mathy pseudologic to make connections between equations and human feelings. It managed to gain some pretty smart members in spite of the bullshit. https://artvoice.com/2019/05/27/guest-view-keith-mathematica...

Cool, thank you! I appreciate the explanation.

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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I start most days with 1 hour of manual labor required for my side business which doesn't require mental effort. Because I am not behind schedule, maximizing productivity is not the goal so I simultaneously listen to an educational podcast.

Is there anyone that would argue that one would benefit, perhaps mentally, from not listening to a podcast when doing routine manual labor ? Maybe trying to work 2x speed first and then listening to the podcast 2x after ? Note I do not consider sweeping/cleaning mentioned in someone else example as routine labor since there is something unique about every cleaning operation.

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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> " When people meet a great leader, they often say, “She made me feel like I was the only person in the room.” Imagine giving that type of complete attention to everything you do—and making that thing the only thing in the room. " "Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." ― Alan Watts. (In the sense that physically doing…

Wouldn't the natural behaviour of thinking about other things while peeling potatoes be an advantage, instead of a disadvantage to be solved with Zen? Many discoveries or solutions to problems (from scientific to the everyday) are found on walks when the mind is working on problems in the background, and I believe this creativity could be lost with mindfulness of the current activity all of the time.

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Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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His math literally doesn't add up. If you multi-task you need to ADD multiple multiplications, one for each task. For example, if you perfectly divide all attention, time and effort in two tasks, you ideally get: 0.5 * 0.2 + 0.5 * 0.15 (given that the value of the first task is 0.2 and the value of the second task is 0.15) One important point is likely, that there is overhead in multitasking, so the actual formula be…

+1. Your 0.1 estimate is an underestimate. Context switching is a very costly if I'm balls deep in a bug fix where I already need to care about 10 thinks. When I go back it's very easy to miss out on something which makes my productivity 0 because you introduced a new bug while fixing the older one lol.

I'd gauge making a mistake which must later be debugged as negative productivity

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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> " When people meet a great leader, they often say, “She made me feel like I was the only person in the room.” Imagine giving that type of complete attention to everything you do—and making that thing the only thing in the room. " "Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." ― Alan Watts. (In the sense that physically doing…

Wouldn't the natural behaviour of thinking about other things while peeling potatoes be an advantage, instead of a disadvantage to be solved with Zen? Many discoveries or solutions to problems (from scientific to the everyday) are found on walks when the mind is working on problems in the background, and I believe this creativity could be lost with mindfulness of the current activity all of the time.

It's a method for living a simpler happy life, not for optimizing productivity.

Besides, your subconscious will constantly be working and making connections even if your conscious mind is 無(blank).

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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> " When people meet a great leader, they often say, “She made me feel like I was the only person in the room.” Imagine giving that type of complete attention to everything you do—and making that thing the only thing in the room. " "Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." ― Alan Watts. (In the sense that physically doing…

Wouldn't the natural behaviour of thinking about other things while peeling potatoes be an advantage, instead of a disadvantage to be solved with Zen? Many discoveries or solutions to problems (from scientific to the everyday) are found on walks when the mind is working on problems in the background, and I believe this creativity could be lost with mindfulness of the current activity all of the time.

I don't pretend to be a Buddhist or Zen student, but as I understand it the advantage comes from understanding another Buddhist idea, that desire causes suffering.

When you want a big car and you don't have one, you suffer. When you want to keep up with the neighbours and cannot, you suffer. When you desire to be out of the cold, you suffer both coldness and unfulfilled desire. If you released your desire to be out of the cold, you would experience coldness, not suffer it.[1] From that kind of thinking, desiring to solve problems and worrying that you cannot is a suffering. Desiring to solve problems so people look up to you is a suffering. Desiring to make the most out of every moment and not waste time "merely peeling potatoes" because you want to be better, smarter, cleverer, more productive, more important, living a more exiciting or higher status life than people who merely peel potatoes is a suffering.

Go through life from start to finish like a river, the river does not seek to be somewhere else, to do something else, to be more or less than it is. Nor will you escape aging, disease, and death, by thinking about other things while peeling potatoes. Nor will you have a better life by solving problems while peeling potatoes, for everything is body sensations and breathing and seeing and hearing, from the cheapest clothes to the most expensive, from the cheapest hut to the luxuryiest apartment, the lables 'cheap', 'luxury', 'comfortable', 'uncomfortable', 'homely', 'ugly', are labels in our heads taught to us by marketers trying to sow social discord and sell products. You have potatoes to peel, peel them. Attend to the movement of your fingers, the sharpness of the blade, the pulsing of your heartbeat, the firmness of the flesh, the way the peel falls, the mud, the splashing water, the scent of raw vegetable, would it be different if you were peeling Venusian potatoes dressed in Flash Gordon shiny silver spaceclothes in a Dyson Swarm pod? Well, I'd rather someone else peeled the potatoes while I did something more exciting, you say, sitting at your computer reading this on HN having an unexciting life, waiting year after year for your exciting life to start, desiring it, suffering for its lack, sadly aware that you have teeth to brush, hands to wash, food to prepare, possibly potatoes to peel, in the imminent future.

[1] the only way I can make sense of this is to be willing to accept that it may result in physical pain, damage, even the end of your life, and accept that, too. Desiring to prolong your life when you cannot do so, is suffering also. Desire for a healthy body when you are injured, is suffering. If you can go inside out of the cold, do so. Take action, have a preference. But if you cannot, do not. [If you can avoid peeling potatoes, and wish to do that, do so. If you cannot, do not]. Do not add suffering by longing for log fires and blankets and hot tea, and self-chastising for letting yourself get stuck outside, or resenting your coworkers or family who dragged you out, or your bad luck for your bus to be late, and so on. If 'experiencing cold' is your life now, then experience it attentively and do a good job of it. [I believe it goes on that the physical discomfort becomes a sensation like speech becomes noise, and then people have surgeries without anaesthetic not because they can stop feeling sensations but because they can stop desiring to not feel pain, they can experience sensations without labelling them as "pain" and needing them to stop.].

Re: A simple math equation can transform your productivity

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His math literally doesn't add up. If you multi-task you need to ADD multiple multiplications, one for each task. For example, if you perfectly divide all attention, time and effort in two tasks, you ideally get: 0.5 * 0.2 + 0.5 * 0.15 (given that the value of the first task is 0.2 and the value of the second task is 0.15) One important point is likely, that there is overhead in multitasking, so the actual formula be…

Multitask repetitive or time consuming tasks only. When I was in college I worked for a mom and pop type PC repair store. Doing PC re-imaging, I set up 6 stations and would kick off one refresh and while it was running, start up the next one and so on. Using disks to install took ages, so I figured out how to make bootable USB sticks, so I would have all 6 or occasionally more (by stealing bench seats) stations hummi…

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